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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: As I see it now - 30.06.09 Reply with quote

I’d like to thank Bob for a good 10 years entertainment since I resurrected my love of speedway but what follows is how I see it now. Bob has spoken about what a good management team the Eagles have – have I missed something? – tell us why Trevor Geer is so good.

Now I come to the riders:
1. Dave Watt – Mediocre. There are usually one or two good rides a meeting but rarely throughout a meeting.
2. Lewis Bridger – Very good season – 110% is great but 100% will do Wink .
3. Lukas Dryml – Very good season.
4. Cameron Woodward – Mediocre – in a comfort zone – one great race does not make a season.
5. David Norris – Improving when the season ending injury came along – as usual no sign of a replacement for a rider with a lengthy injury.
6. Simon Gustafsson – Great season until recent matches.
7. Ricky Kling – Good season but, for me, has only come up with the goods when Simon was injured.

From this I would say that Watt and Woodward have been the most disappointing. If they had contributed as much as I feel they should have the I think we'd be a lot higher in the league.

I can see why Bob’s had enough but it works both ways – the ineffective management and the attitude of certain riders is no way to get the crowds in. This is a team that, on paper, should be in the top 4 as far as I am concerned – I had a good bet at the start of the season thinking the bookies had got the Eagles odds completely wrong – as usual, they hadn’t.

There seems to me to be 3 options for the rest of the season:
1. Pull the plug.
2. Plough on with ever dwindling crowds.
3. Change the team and get in 1 or 2 crowd pleasers (Nicki anyone?) for a decent swansong. I’m sure this could be done if we manipulate the rules like everyone else. If Trevor can’t work it out perhaps Jon Cook could help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an excellent post.  I agree with everything you say.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Floppy is out for the season then a replacement is needed and pretty fast I think.

Bringing in a rider can become a huge boost to the team in terms of results and morale and lets face it, Eastbourne are not a bad side but they do appear at a low eb at the moment.

Piotr Swiderski has just been released from Ipswich and a guy I have been keeping tabs on in both Poland and Sweden is a young Danish  lad called Leon Madsen who has just switched from JRM to GM engines and is flying in both leagues. Madsen wont fill floppys shoes home or away so may not be the answer depending on how many points is left to build with.

But I do think they should be pro active and start to look for a rider if they already have not that is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of weeks ago, when the management commented on Floppy, it was said that a couple of riders were being looked at.

Swiderski was great last season & maybe he just needs a fresh start to come good again.
I remember him going well down here 2 seasons ago 'till Mr Bridger nearly put him through the fence....and before you ask, he admitted so Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH we've missed the boat as usual, Lewis' average now goes up 2-3 points and we've lost that amount to use on another rider. It was reported in the Argus that they will probably make a signing after Simon's average goes up and Cam moves to reserve, by which time it will be too late Rolling Eyes  I think the last few performances have reflected that too!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we act now we still have a chance....

Ok, so Lewis's average may have gone up by about 2.5 points, but Watt and Woodward have been so bad that their averages have fallen by more or less the same amount.

This means (I think...and in very rough terms) that if we are just   going to bring in a replacement for Floppy we'd have about 7.25 points to play with up to the new 42 point limit.

With Batchelor seemingly snapped up by Ipswich, Swiderski seems an obvious candidate and with a current average of something like 5.75 would leave us with an extra 1.5 points floating around should we wish to show the door to one of the under performing Aussies..... which in my opinion we should.

Come on Bob..... it aint like you to go out with a whimper..... how about making one last effort and saying goodbye with a real bang!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

correct about the two ippo changes COUS .seems there is only one non-pro-active team in the elite --- us !! Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current green sheets (not inc Floppy who is still on 5.91)

1. Lewis Bridger..............7.63
2. Davey Watt.................6.73
3. Lukas Dryml.................5.60
4. Cameron Woodward...5.10
5. Ricky Kling...................4.77
6. Simon Gustafsson.......4.28


Total  34.11 leaves 7.89

So they do have time to make a change
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that what the next few days will tell us is how genuine Trevor Geer was being when he told The Argus that we still have a chance to reach the play-offs..... or was it just "paper talk".

One or two decent signings = We're gonna give it a real go

But.....

The usual inactivity = We've pretty much thrown the towel in.

Which will it be???

If I was a betting man........


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on this basis  how many will attend on saturday , if the match is on ?!! still no news on this at all ---- NUTHIN'  Sad  Mad
after dealing with a "shower" a towel is necessary , a right shower, figures it will be thrown in .after all these tears are we going out with a whimper  Confused  Shocked  Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you can rule out Swiderski, he was involved in a crash in Poland last night and has dislocated his ankle so will be out for a while with an injury of that kind, shame for the lad, its been a nightmare season for him   Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like it might be Slovakian Martin Vaculik.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussex bulldog wrote:
It looks like it might be Slovakian Martin Vaculik.


He might well be one for the future... something that the Eagles might not have... but do we really think he'll be the one to give us that push into this seasons play-offs?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps he is cheap  Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of all the names mentioned in the argus today (haven't we been here before!) the only one I'd be happy with is Max.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave A says he knows who it is but can't say  Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dave A says he knows who it is but can't say  Laughing


Fair enough.... but could he tell us WHEN whoever it is will be arriving?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe its the Russian.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ComeOnYouSpurs wrote:
sussex bulldog wrote:
Dave A says he knows who it is but can't say  Laughing


Fair enough.... but could he tell us WHEN whoever it is will be arriving?
He told us the Russian was coming beginning of last season and hes still not arrived yet so I wouldnt hold my breathe if I was you Kevin Wink
I dont know why they didnt put Jason Crump top of their list makes good press,but its ok having a list the question is are there funds and is there a will to go and try a get these riders, Bob admits he hasnt the time and has Trevor got the get up and go enough to sell the club to these "listed" riders even if we could afford them. Its all deja vu to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im afraid that you could be right parker.....

But Bob has said we can't continue with R/R......

Trevor has said we can still make the play-offs......

It's time for them to back up their words with some action!

I can't see anything happening in time for Saturday's match at Arlington or Monday at Wolves..... but after that there is the break for the World Cup and I would hope/expect something to happen in time for our meeting at Belle Vue on 20th July.

There wont be too much holding of breath going on though!!!


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