In my ignorance I wondered that, if your club owned your contract, you were that clubs assett and did not have much say in where you went; certainly not to the extent of saying "I want to leave, but I will only go to so-and-so".
I'll give you an example Berbatov Spurs to United would nt go anywhere else but united despite other teams making offers.
Surely the contract is to ride for Eastbourne If Bob wants to sell that contract all well and good but surely Kennett then has the right to say yes or no to where he goes. As Pratt quoted its not a cattle Market. I have a contract with my employer but if he wants to flog me to someone in East Anglia I'd say no and wouldnt go _________________ A Founder Member of the Home Straight Lukas Dryml Appreciation Society!
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sure you are right parker .if a rider insists in leaving for a particular club and refuses to ride for his existing one both parties have to get something out of it . if existing team cancels the contract then the rider is a free agent and can be signed for nothing . therefore he has to be sold or loaned out for the vendor to make something out of it . a rider has a preference then will seek to join the new club .
we have been told already this season that other tracks wanted davey watt on loan and poole were offered more by at least one undisclosed track than we paid , but he insisted on re-joining eagles . kennett refused to join peterboro' when they agreed bobby's asking price .
A flurry of posts on "The other side" say that Kennett has been sold to the pond dwellers for £25,000, with Adam Shields as the "swop" rider.
Theoretically valuing Adam at £5,000 if BDs' acceptable figure of £30,000 is taken as a base line.
Kennett would then get his wish to ride for Coventry as he would be loaned out this season and in the team for 2010; Adam presumably would be in our squad in 2010.
is this true if so good we dont want any rider who doesnt by his own admission want to be here although an excellent prospect much rather have a committed rider who gives his all for the eagles roll on march so we can forget the politics and get onwith the sport
A flurry of posts on "The other side" say that Kennett has been sold to the pond dwellers for £25,000, with Adam Shields as the "swop" rider.
Theoretically valuing Adam at £5,000 if BDs' acceptable figure of £30,000 is taken as a base line.
Kennett would then get his wish to ride for Coventry as he would be loaned out this season and in the team for 2010; Adam presumably would be in our squad in 2010.
A flurry of posts on "The other side" say that Kennett has been sold to the pond dwellers for £25,000, with Adam Shields as the "swop" rider.
Theoretically valuing Adam at £5,000 if BDs' acceptable figure of £30,000 is taken as a base line.
Kennett would then get his wish to ride for Coventry as he would be loaned out this season and in the team for 2010; Adam presumably would be in our squad in 2010.
EASTBOURNE promoter Bob Dugard says he is resigned to going to arbitration with Coventry over the ongoing transfer of Edward Kennett.
Dugard's recent stance that he had agreed a fee with another club for the rider was rebuffed by Bees boss Colin Pratt, who insisted that Kennett would only be transferred to where he wants to go - and he has reportedly agreed terms at Brandon.
With a month having elapsed since Kennett's transfer request, Coventry are entitled to request arbitration on behalf of the rider, and Pratt has indicated this will take place.
He said: "I've got to send off a letter to the SCB setting out the position and requesting the hearing, having waited 28 days as I previously explained.
"We've been through this procedure before, most recently with Scott Nicholls, and although we don't know when exactly it will take place, Edward has agreed to ride for us and we're pleased he's coming here."
Dugard, who had initially slapped an £80,000 transfer fee on Kennett's head, knows he will have to accept far less than that - although he hopes it will be significantly more than Coventry's latest reported offer.
He said: "Coventry have reduced their offer to £15,000 which I see as a bargaining tactic by them before going to arbitration.
"They are experts in these matters whereas I have never been to arbitration over a rider, but I'll go in there and give it my best." _________________ front page http://www.whereeaglesdaretofly.com
in which case which is the other team mentioned . could likely be the primates or the spanners , both of which kennett may well find acceptable , and bees pay that team a loan fee when bobby has agreed a fee and recieved it .what makes pratt think kennett would refuse to join every other club . what about the rider in part-exchange , or is this all smoke and mirrors .?! cannot see who that might be at coventry . poole and lakeside both have a rider we would welcome , both have worn " the eagle " .as posted earlier , pratt always has looked miserable and been a grumbler even back in his riding days . hope he has reason to this time .
as for kennett , after all that has happened and what has been said it is eagles that matter to us and most of us have no sympathy or patience left for some one that has no respect , liking , or consideration for eagles management or fans . thought he might have explained in the local papers the situation .
To be honest I am sick and tired of the Kennett saga, as I am sure many of us are. I agree with Ray that perhaps it would have been better if he had replied in the papers the why's and wherefore's. I hope BD gets as much as he can for him. What happens if BD does not agree the valuation, after all he does own his contract. I hope he gets as much as he can. After all he learned much of his trade at Arlington. Many of us think that perhaps outside influences have been at work. _________________ Supporting the Eagles through the good times as well as the bad
According to Speedwayworld.tv the Ed saga is going to arbitration.
That makes Dugard's story about agreeing a fee & rider exchange with another club, shall we say, less than the truth.
Funny how Ed seems to be getting all the bad press.
as posted , we would really appreciate knowing his side of matters . true bobby is prone to knee-jerk reactions , we have witnessed this sort of situation before . whatever the truth , whether we really are told what it is , and what lead up to it , we are eagles supporters . i have criticised BD at times , but then none of us are perfect and we respond to such matters in different ways . but we are eastbourne supporters and are provided with this aspect of our lives by the dugards . the whole issue seems to have escalated out of control , but as said already , this is not the first time .
Has Ed really ever wanted to ride for us? He admitted last year he only rode here because of his main sponsor! Thats why hes getting a 'bad press' . Bob is right on this, if he couldn't commit to us now would he ever? No point in having a rider who doesn't want to ride for you. I just think it's sad that a rider doesn't want to be at his local club who gave him his start and gave him so many oppertunities. _________________ Check out my Pic's site. Click on WWW below...
very valid post and comments .these are a matter of fact from kennett . it's over , we have seven other riders to support , from new boys to golden oldies . if kennett has not got the decency and bottle to stand up and speak , then he is confirming the position .anyway we can do without kennett , but not the dugards . it is as simple as that .
Has Ed really ever wanted to ride for us? He admitted last year he only rode here because of his main sponsor! Thats why hes getting a 'bad press' . Bob is right on this, if he couldn't commit to us now would he ever? No point in having a rider who doesn't want to ride for you. I just think it's sad that a rider doesn't want to be at his local club who gave him his start and gave him so many oppertunities.
I think thats a fair point MrB. But I really have no problems about Eddie going and whether he wanted to ride for us or not.The nature of speedway in my opinion doesnt really encourage loyality to a particular team. Things like the team average often means riders are shipped out on loan whether they really wanted to go or not, they frequently ride as a guest, on more than one occassion for nearly every other team in their league during a season. How can that foster loyality in a enviroment such as that. Colin Pratt wrote in his response to Bob that he should'nt treat Eddie as thought he was just "cattle in a market" I think all promoters are guilt of that, very few show loyality to their riders and get very little back now days. Most clubs seem to have a different team every season We at Eastbourne have at least have had some continuity,and whether Eddie wants to ride for us or not at present theres a good chance that some time in the future we might be his only option. _________________ A Founder Member of the Home Straight Lukas Dryml Appreciation Society!
excellent post mate , what you say is true . yes eagles do have greater continuity , whenever possible , and most of them and us appreciate this .think many of us remember when martin , david and deano came back in 1993 . we kept the nucleus of that season for many more . the attendances showed how much the fans , this time ,appreciated that
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if BDs' acceptable figure of £30,000 is taken as a base line.
I agree with Ray that perhaps it would have been better if he had replied in the papers the why's and wherefore's. I hope BD gets as much as he can for him. What happens if BD does not agree the valuation, after all he does own his contract. I hope he gets as much as he can. After all he learned much of his trade at Arlington. Many of us think that perhaps outside influences have been at work. 
