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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest from The Argus -

Eagles agree Kennett fee

7:10am Thursday 15th January 2009
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By Brian Owen »

Eastbourne Eagles have agreed a deal with another Elite League club for Edward Kennett.

But the club concerned are not Coventry.

Kennett was keen to move to the Brandon outfit, who had two bids knocked back by Eagles promoter Bob Dugard.

Now Dugard has agreed a price of £25,000 plus a rider for Kennett.

The buying club, whose identity is not yet being revealed, cannot fit Kennett into their 2009 line-up but would loan him out for a season.

Which means he could yet get his year with the Bees after all.

All the transfer requires now is the agreement of Kennett himself when he returns from a ski trip.

Dugard had suggested Kennett could yet be back at Arlington next season as he struggled to agree a price with Coventry.

But that, and any late rejig in the Eagles line-up, now looks unlikely.

Russian champion Denis Gizatullin has been confirmed as a four-point rider for the new season which means he goes at reserve alongside Simon Gustafsson.

Appe Mustonen, originally named at reserve for Eagles before Kennett’s transfer request led to a re-think, will still have a chance to shine in England.

The Finnish teenager will come across before the new season and Dugard will try to find him a Premier League track if he looks the part.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us hope that this matter is now closed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the mystery club is professional and forward looking and he will not be able to be fitted in this year . three clubs most likely to fill this description would seem to be primates , spanners and wolves . what if a loan fee cannot be agreed !? Surprised  , and with present line-ups only bees could do this , or will  they find somebody else . their top 4 at present look very strong , with eddie they would be hot favourites for trophies .
if what has been quoted turns out to be true as to what eddie feels about eagles then i will switch with other posters , if he is really that ungrateful and disrespectful then go . hope he doesn't get an elite team this year . but let us see just what was said . does he have his own website that he could respond on ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sussexbulldog wrote:
Let us hope that this matter is now closed.


Amen to that!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that it is not all over yet.

Coventry are determined to buy Ed and are going to arbritation.

COVENTRY promoter Colin Pratt has issued the following reaction to reports that Eastbourne boss Bob Dugard has agreed to sell Edward Kennett to another Elite League club.


The report states that a deal of £25,000 plus a rider exchange has been arranged with the un-named club, who would then loan Kennett out for the season as they have already completed their team.

Such a move would require the consent of Kennett himself, who has already put in a transfer request to the Eagles.

Pratt said: "We made our final offer to Eastbourne for Edward at the BSPA on Tuesday, and this was refused.

"This was following Edward's transfer request made earlier this winter, in which he stated his desire to move from Eastbourne to Coventry.

"We felt that the fee Bob Dugard was asking for Edward was ridiculous, but likewise he felt the same about our offer.

"At the end of the day, it will go to arbitration because the rider will always go where he wants to go.

"What Bob must remember is that he is not dealing with cattle in a cattle market, he is dealing with human beings and sportsmen.

"The move will go to arbitration after 28 days have elapsed from Edward's transfer request and we will take it from there.

"In the initial discussions, Bob told us he did not want a loan deal, he wanted to sell him. Bob cannot sell Edward to another club without Edward's agreement, and Edward has said he wants to move to Coventry."

That is of course if he does not approve the deal brokered by Bob.

It is worse than trying to sell a house.  Laughing  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

H.I.P [HIP HOORAY ]  is still necessary with house sales . now await the name of the mystery club and kennett's decision [ don't call him eddie anymore !] . so a fee will have to be agreed , maybe by tribunal too , all too distracting really , it is eagles that are important  Cool  Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is worse than trying to sell a house.  Laughing  Rolling Eyes



Depends on the Estate Agents, some have been known to be quite nice people Exclamation  Exclamation  Wink Laughing

To get back on thread, Pratt says that at the end of the day it is up to Kennett where he goes; however, if BD owns his contract and if this offer from an unnamed club is a better one from a buisiness point of view than Coventrys', then surely BD can sell Kennett to that club, even if he wants to go to Coventry?

Or am I missing something?
What, otherwise, would be the point a promoter owning a riders contract, after all, surely the riders are assetts of the club?

Otherwise a rider, in this case Kennett, can basically hold a club to ransome by saying "I want to leave, and I will only go to so-and-so".
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin54 wrote:
sussexbulldog wrote:


It is worse than trying to sell a house.  Laughing  Rolling Eyes



Depends on the Estate Agents, some have been known to be quite nice people Exclamation  Exclamation  Wink Laughing


Yes some Estate Agents are very, very nice

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To get back on thread, Pratt says that at the end of the day it is up to Kennett where he goes; however, if BD owns his contract and if this offer from an unnamed club is a better one from a buisiness point of view than Coventrys', then surely BD can sell Kennett to that club, even if he wants to go to Coventry?

Or am I missing something?
What, otherwise, would be the point a promoter owning a riders contract, after all, surely the riders are assetts of the club?



Well Colin Pratt is saying that this is not so.  Guess we will have to wait and see.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr pratt always has , and still does , look miserable .sure he does a good job , and sure sandhu and the bees fans think the world of him . wouldn't it be a shame if he was made miserable again  Smile  Cool . this outcome will be most intresting and could well set a precedent . but hey , hope he and kennett get what they deserve , and more importantly so does bobby , the eagles and us . Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arbitration interesting!!! who decides then?!!! And if BD isnt happy with it all hell could brake loose!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ray wrote:
H.I.P [HIP HOORAY ]  is still necessary with house sales . now await the name of the mystery club and kennett's decision [ don't call him eddie anymore !] . so a fee will have to be agreed , maybe by tribunal too , all too distracting really , it is eagles that are important  Cool  Razz
 I believe I am right in saying that Kennett signed for the club in the Arndale Centre in Eastbourne a number of years ago. John Cook was then one of the people in charge. Perhaps somebody will correct me if I am wrong. So if I am correct he is still an Eagles asset. What happens if this transfer does not go through, will he be without a club for 2009. Shocked  It is sad that this should end so acrimoniously. Kennett has a talent which BD wanted to nurture at the club, perhaps it would be a good idea  if we could be told why things went so wrong.  Confused I agree with Ray that we should be concentrationg on the Eagles. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neither parties have to disclose that info aussie2 , but if one hears the other stating a version that is objected to then both parties may decide to disclose . colin pratt is putting his oar into the water  and living up to his name . all that matters to us is kennett wants away --- then GO Cool  Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems as though this saga has a way to go. Starting to get a bit nasty, perhaps it would have been better for Colin Pratt to have kept his mouth shut. It does not help speedway to see the acrimony that is happening among the promoters.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aussie2 sent me article from hailsham gazette . kennett hates it at eastbourne ! well if he doesn't get a loan at coventry , unless another team changes it's line up , let him have an   even more   hateful experience --- shut out of british speedway for a season . if our team is as good as we are told and most of us believe we don't want kennett anyway . not doubting bobby but if the boy has any sense at all he will put his side forward . does he not have a web-site ? maybe an item in a paper , if he does not do so then obviously he  really doesn't like us .what is more he , unlike a certain other rider who left [ adam ] , will deserve to no longer be accepted as he used to .
as for pratt , by name and nature , he always looks as if he is sulking . let us hope at least now he will have good reason to . be most intrested if kennett agrees or not to join this mystery team but not ride until 2010 .
kennetts seem to come and go , unlike the dugards who ARE eastbourne speedway . not being nasty , it is simply a fact . Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know why some people are bleating about Colin Pratt for . How many times have we posted on here about wanting to know whats going on and now it appears we now know both BD's position and Colin Pratts. We berated Shields when he left without knowing the full facts now we seem to be doing the same to Kennett. We dont know what was said between Bob and Eddie, may be they both said things, dug their heels in and now theres an impasse. We all seem to be happy with the team we've got without Eddie so if he wants out sell him. Might as well get something for him.

ps Kevin I dont think Bob could make Eddie go somewhere he didnt want to go contract or no contract. its similar in Professional Football if they dont what to go to another club they dont seem to.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray - Sorry mate, but with respect, sometimes it appears you change your tune more than a radio playlist.
BD was public enemy No.1 & Ed was a fine chap a few weeks ago. Now it appears you believe everything BD comes out with.
Ed is apparently on holiday, which probably isn't common knowledge, but it's a bit of a sweeping statement to say if he doesn't go public, then he dislikes us. The way he rode for us last season - did that look like he hated Arlington?

Both of us are grateful to BD for the club, as without him it would probably have folded. But lets get some perspective on this - Neither of us will ever know the full story.

Please don't take this as a personal dig. I believe totally in attack the post, not the poster.
I know the bottom line is that, like me, you're passionate about the club. Just a pity that there are times when the way some of the riders & management conduct themselves is barely worthy of your or my support.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ps Kevin I dont think Bob could make Eddie go somewhere he didnt want to go contract or no contract. its similar in Professional Football if they dont what to go to another club they dont seem to.


Just wondering, Parker.

In my ignorance I wondered that, if your club owned your contract, you were that clubs assett and did not have much say in where you went; certainly not to the extent of saying "I want to leave, but I will only go to so-and-so".

Agree with you on your other points, get a fee, re-invest it in the club.
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chris , yes i have changed my mind on many things in this life .  this includes speedway . what is good for our eagles is good for me . bobby is not usually one for taking prisoners . i am fully aware of this and have experienced it myself . the situation about adam has been explained already on this site , but i was never against him . adam and i had become friends , so i could form my own opinion anyway . i have suggested that kennett puts his side quite clearly , but as i hardly know him i do not have the personal knowledge to give an opinion . i have made this abundantly clear . obviously there has become an issue from this dispute , and there are two sides , at least , to every disagreement . i have posted stating on the basis of what has been reported so far , and have yet to be aware of anything else . i have said IF , which is clear enough .yes i have been amongst those who have criticised BD  in the past . but i have posted my appreciation also . what is so strange about that ?
 i do not take your post as a personal attack but don't understand where your post , mine , and others are so very different . just different slants really . we may never know the full facts , but at the end of the day it is for the two people involved to make a decision that will be as good as possible between them .
colin pratt  has expressed his comments  , these are mostly , as ever , complaining about others . yes , even as a rider he has always come across as sulking , sometimes even surly  . nothing new there . but the fact remains that kennett may come or go , BD says he would still have him back . but BD isn't going anywhere .have i made myself clearer this time , do hope so , for we are posting about the same thing , the eastbourne eagles the team we support . Cool we want what is best for them , as others have already posted .
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It dont matter to me or you if kennett only wants to go to coventry or if Bob wants 50 million for him,but im confused, unless im corrected bob owns his contract to ride speedway,now if bob agrees to sale that contract   to wolves for example what right has kennet got to say no.If its cause thats not what kennett wants then whats the point of having any assets as it seems that the riders have the upperhand. i agree if the rider dont want to leave but kennett does.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did it actually say in the Hailsham Gazette as when I went to get it in Budgens Hailsham is was last weeks!


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