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| Eagle1971 |
team changes coming..................Argus says...........
Denis heading back to Arlington 9:00am Tuesday 9th December 2008 By Brian Owen » Eastbourne Eagles look set to bring back Denis Gizatullin for next season as they re-think their team building plans. Arlington chief Bob Dugard has been knocked back by Coventry in an audacious move to sign Rory Schlein in exchange for Edward Kennett, who has requested a transfer. Now Dugard is splashing out on Gizatullin, the Russian champion who rode once for Eagles in 2007. If the 24-year-old completes formalities, that would leave room below the average points limit for Eastbourne to make further changes. Sergey Darkin and Appe Mustonen would be left out, with Eagles lining up an alternative second string and reserve. Eagles would not need to stump up a transfer or loan fee for Gizatullin. But they would have to provide him with a van, bikes, accommodation and regular flights. Dugard insists: “It would no longer be a cut-price team but if you want to try and win titles you have to spend some money.” Team manager Trevor Geer is in contact with Gizatullin through the rider’s English-speaking compatriot Roman Povazhny, Bringing in Schlein, who enjoys riding at Arlington, would have been a major coup for Eastbourne but he is now a confirmed starter for Coventry. Kennett, who asked for a move last week, is still keen to join the Bees although Eagles are keen on a permanent deal rather than a loan. Dugard said he has reached agreement to sell Kennett to Peterborough for £45,000 but added: “He doesn’t want to go there. “Coventry are his only choice and we are still waiting for a call from them.” |
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| samthepalaceman |
Better than Darkin and Mustonen, surprised that Peterborough agreed a fee of £45,000 as there is no way he can fit into the Coventry team. 
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| mmmmethanol |
So we'll just have to have Chris Harris............... 
It's all part of a masterplan. |
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| sussexbulldog |
Story is on the front page.
Shame the Rory in place of Ed deal did not come off. It looks like Ed's case might go to a tribunal. I like the idea of someone stronger than Darkin. Shame about Appe but if we get someone stronger that can't be bad. |
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| Kevin54 |
So we've got a Russian who can't speak english and did'nt bother to turn up for us last time he had "signed" for us!
Better give the guy a Sat-Nav so he's got no excuse about getting lost. Eddie is on his way to Peterborough, except he does not want to go. Yep, it's definately the silly season 
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| Eagle1971 |
I don't see Coventry swopping Ed for Harris really. I think that Ed will be riding for Eagles again myself next season.
Bob has successfully called everyone's bluff by asking cash for Ed. 
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| speedy dan boy |
emmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Darkin signed and dropped-wonder if he made any plans for 2009. mustonen signed and dropped-wonder if he made any plans for 2009! Seems a bit harsh these riders agreeing then dumped.Hope they didnt sign a contract as we could be in trouble with the bspa!!!! |
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| mmmmethanol |
Just shows how wise it was to announce a team before they'd all signed.
Eagle1971 - Peterborough are prepared to cough up 45K for Ed. What a mess. |
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| Aussie2 |
Waste of money to sign Gizatullin as BD has to provide a van, bikes, accommodation and flights.  What happens if he decides to ride for his russian team, and not for us on a Saturday. Would rather have had someone else from Europe. He tried once before, and could not get on with track, he just left and did not return. Feel sorry for the young Finnish rider. Bad idea to announce the team so early, as it has now all gone pear shaped.  Perhaps BD should tear the peice of paper up, and start again, with Davey Watt, Simon Gustafsson, Lewis Bridger and I presume Cameron Woodward.
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| Eagle1971 |
I totally agree. For a number six or seven it's a waste of money. I just think BD is doing this to tempt Ed home with these talks of bikes and van. Ed only has a choice of Eagles or Peterborough now. The grass is not always greener elsewhere.Ed to stay I feel. 
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| speedy dan boy |
i have to slightly differ from peoples views on Gizatullin.when he was in the world team cup last year he was very much on the pace and beat some good riders.Hes now 24 and a much better rider then the last time he came to the uk which was new to him.i would even go so far that he could get into the grand prixs on merit i think hes that good.HOWEVER!!! the down side is as a lot of people have said , for some reason hes not bringing his own bikes over and it STILL remains if hes got the desire to do well over here rather then jet in,race and jet out again!!not speaking english is also against him unless TG CAN SPEAK RUSSIAN!! | ||||||||
| sussexbulldog |
Must be that MI5 training
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| Kevin54 |
Has BD flipped 
Lewis supposedly is in need of some sponsorship, I don't think we have heard that the club are assisting in that. Yet..............BD is reported as assisting with bikes, a van and air fares for a guy who was hideously unreliable in 2007 and, did not turn up for any of our fixtures, bar one, even though he was supposed to have signed a contract and agreed the fixture list. Surely there is a better prospect than Dennis "we seek him here, we seek him there" Gizatulin.
And less expensive
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| mmmmethanol |
Wish that was the case, but if a rider wants away, then it'd be a big mistake to stay. This goes for Lewis as well. Putting all your eggs in one basket & building a team around a rider who's less than 100% is asking for trouble. Can't do much for team spirit either. |
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| ray |
think they have been watching SPOOKS to much .but what happened to saving money this year ? where are the necessary sponsors , the supporters club are gonna have to perform miracles coz bobby and trevor's , ideas of raising money are the same as alistair darling and gordon brown's , expect us to pay , and pay -- and ----  if martin does not accept bobby's offer who will there to actually be a promoter . so far we have even managed to lose riders announced , finding they are not joining . BB's contribution is welcome , but a drop in the ocean , already alloted , ok hagon would only have sponsored the national league team [ another major let down again ] but the loss of meridian as well , we seem to be going backwards .so from an announced full team we now have davey , cameron , lewis , and simon . now dennis the menace . all sorts of things could still go wrong with this . how much sponsorship is bobby prepared to spend on this .all rather worrying . wonder how many feel it is worth buying a season ticket at this time . the four mentioned first are excellent , but are we gonna have to have a " james " to make the number up again ?  why was the idea of two premier riders doubling up not even considered ? should it not be at least considered now .? belle vue look weak again and how will bees fit eddie in , so we are not alone with the problems . nuthin' yet about the spanners , but expect primates to be up there again . robins have made a good start too . but hey , to have davey back again , fantastic . simon , lewis and cameron are great signings , so not all doom and gloom , but enough to worry about .
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| MrB |
Don't think he ever rode Arlington but he's a better bet than Darkin IF he is fully committed to ALL our fixtures. Bob admits it would no longer be a cheap team so maybe he will put in coin operated loo's
Don't really want to see Ed staying if he doesn't want to be here. I'm with Bob on this one, he's had a lot of time away from the club already and if he can't commit now is there any point in retaining him? 1 of Bob's 'world class options' to replace Ed has signed for Coventry so who are the other otions he has? Harris would be superb but would Coventry really let him go? |
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| 7oakseagle |
Jesus, you lot are a miserable bunch of old gits!
Gizatulin is miles better than than Darkin. O.K. we all know there is the risk of him going AWOL but I am sure Bob and Trevor are pretty confident that they have the bases covered and that will not happen. When the original team was announced most of us thought 'oh no Darkin and Mustonen, we will struggle'. Most accused Bob of putting together a team on the cheap. Now he has said that he is prepared to spend money because he wants to win something, you moan about that. There are options out there to replace Eddie, Zagar would fit for example. Doolan rides Arlington well and would come in ona 5ish avereage.It may also allow us to have a stronger reserve than the young Finn. What about Ricky wells or Ricky Kling? Far from going backwards this seems to be very much going forward in my opinion. Oh, and one last thing, when Bob Brimson left and then Martin Hagon left, if Bob Dugard had not stepped in we may well not be looking forward to any Speedway next year at all. So people, can we please try and be a little more postive and less like Victor Meldrew! |
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| sussexbulldog |
Excellent post 7oaks 
I guess we all get anxious this time of year until the full 1-7 have put pen to paper but we will have a better team than the first lineup that was announced. |
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| pickles |
The lad i work with is Polish and follows speedway big time, He rates the russian very highly,must be better than Darkin.
Also does this mean we can get wells in now in the speedway star it says that he will be going overseas soon. All the teams are starting to take shape we must remember they will be weaker,and you will not need out and out heat leaders just strength throughout I think the team is shaping up well lets get behind Bob and the team and stop keep sniping it gets very depressing. There are alot of people out there who have no team to support that could have been us as well!! |
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| Aussie2 |
As well as paying for a van, accommodation, flights and a bike, who is going to pay for a mechanic for him, or is he going to do without one. Would rather have seen the money spent on making sure that our signed riders have got all that they want, especially Lewis, who lost all his sponsorship from Hagon. BD said he was going to help him get the bikes for the 2009 season. Has this happened.
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| Bazra |
I think we need to give Gizatulin a chance after all no one knows how he rides Arlington. If he's weak then Si will take his place in the main 1-5 & I don't think he can be weaker then Jimbo.
Oh & by the way I have heard a rumour about the other reserve we might be intrested in. |
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| 7oakseagle |
Going to share that with us Bazra? Go on you know you want to
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| ray |
see poole have gone for doubling up option , mark lemon , if we end up with another " james " we have only the management to blame . the team announcement was nothing short of a farce  they do seem to rush into things , even announce them , when it is all hopeful thinking , prefer intelligent thinking , after research and confirmation . so as eddie wants to go to bees , but they cannot fit him in as things stand , another about turn , more egg on the face --- in this case === so what . we need eddie back . we still only have one heatleader .think they went into " rushian " things . ok , hope to be proved wrong , whatever happened to the frugality bobby talked of . as things stand he will be paying the roubles all by himself . " calm down - it's only a commercial " as michael winner says , but will be winners too ?!
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| Bazra |
before anyone starts It's not Martin, but he was a one time Eagles Captain who I think quit the sport to early. Although i'm not saying he would be any good now. | ||||||||
| 7oakseagle |
Full of the Christmas spirit you, aren't you? |
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| ray |
surely not reg trott
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| ray |
at least it is not out of a bottle
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| Eagle1971 |
Well I don't believe it, surely not Andrew Silver
and I don't want either of those two russians as Ed will have to stay now because everyone else has completed their teams
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| Bazra |
Yep Hi Ho Silver, God knows what he would be like now. In his day a great rider & probably one of the best team riders I have ever seen. I think what ever happens we will end up with a Russian, just remains to be seen which. Still it's just a rumour. | ||||||||
| samthepalaceman |
Lakeside Team
(c+p from BSF) Adam Shields Joonas Kylmakorpi Jonas Davidsson - as an asset if anyone wasn't aware Kauko Niemenen - as an asset Chris Mills Doubling Up Lee Richardson Stuart Robson - as an asset Ricky Kling looks to be coming to Eastbourne, fingers crossed |
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| ray |
if we want to take a pic of ricky will we have to use " klingfilm " i won't make any comments about negatives , anyway film isn't necessary either now there is digital .think i had shut up now and take my tablets , laying down in a darkened room
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| speedy dan boy |
should be some friendly banter with Lee coming down with the spanners!!!! | ||||||||
| Bazra |
If he's fit.
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| ray |
speedy , agree , but lee and trevor are hardly the greatest of chat merchants , a grin followed by silence i would think . so lee , adam , joonas and cookie , have to say hello to them all , they served us well and are a part of eagles history . no grudges , even to beaky [ with a nose like that he looks like an eagle ], as long as we beat them . i will certainly go ino the pits and say hello . always like to see adam and davey together , they are special men , and special riders .
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| mmmmethanol |
Today's Argus quotes Ricky Kling as our probable sixth signing.
Goes great at Arlington. That leaves 8.05, so who's it gonna be? Very few options left........ |
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| Eagle1971 |
Argus says...............
Eagles move in on Kling 6:00am Thursday 11th December 2008 By Brian Owen » Eastbourne Eagles expect to sign Swedish reserve Ricky Kling on loan from Lakeside tonight. Kling has been left out of the Hammers’ new line-up and, subject to agreeing personal terms, will come in alongside compatriot Simon Gustafson at the bottom of the Eagles’ order. That leaves Arlington supreme Bob Dugard with just one place left in his line-up and about six average points with which to work. Kling is in Sussex today and will meet Dugard to discuss a one-year deal. Dugard said: “Ricky would probably say himself Arlington is his favourite track. “We definitely want him. I’vet wanted him for weeks. He has got to be more solid on a 4.90 average than bringing in a three or four-pointer. “I know he is very excited about coming to us and I don’t envisage any sticking points.” The under-rated Kling averaged 6.24 paid points per four rides in all matches for the Hammers last season as they reached the finals of both the Elite League play-offs and Craven Shield. The 21-year-old from Mallila had a very creditable 38 wins or paid wins in 160 rides and, as in 2007, proved he can be a handy performer at Arlington. In three visits to Sussex last term, he won the reserves’ race twice, had victories over Lee Richardson and Cameron Woodward and posted scores of 8+2 (5), 9+1 (7) and 7+2 (5) for an average of 6.82 including bonuses. Kling would join Davey Watt, Lewis Bridger, Denis Gizatullin, Woodward, Gustafson and one other. Last season’s Eagles skipper Richardson will spearhead the new Lakeside one-to-seven. He joins Adam Shields, Jonas Davidson and Joonas Kylmakorpi in a strong looking top four. Kauko Nieminen and reserve Stuart Dobson are also on board, with the last reserve spot to be shared between Chris Mills and another rider to be named. Meanwhile Dugard admits he is yet to do a deal to offload wantaway Edward Kennett, for whom he has set a reduced asking price of £45,000. Kennett has admitted he would like to ride for Coventry. He had also been linked with Peterborough, but the Panthers’ promoter Mick Bratley has described Dugard’s asking price as ludicrous. Bratley added: “I know some people think I’m stupid, but I can assure them I’m not that stupid. We were briefly interested in Kennett but then someone else became available who we preferred.” ............I still think Ed's staying though
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| Londoneagle |
Kling good signing!
Could anyone clarify - is it 8.05 points left to play with, or about 6 as mentioned in the article above? Many thanks |
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| sussexbulldog |
If Denis comes in on 4.00 it is 8.05 left
1.Watt 8.15 2. 3.Bridger 5.11 4.Woodward 5.41 5.Gustafsson 4.28 6.Kling 4.90 7.Denis 4.00 Total 31.85 Allowed 39.90 difference 8.05 Perhaps Denis is assessed at 6.00 that would account for the Argus figure. 6.05 would rule Ed out. If it is 8.05 he might be back. |
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| Londoneagle |
Thanks for that... Denis on 6!! Is he THAT good? Not sure I would go for that. A 6.05 rated heatleader and we could be in trouble. |
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| emjay |
No-show Giza again? Mr BD cannot be serious. | ||||||||
| Bazra |
This is starting to look a bit weak at the top end especiallay is Denis don't perforn/turn up. Seem to be heaping a lot of pressure on Cam & Lewis to perform. | ||||||||
| ray |
so ed out by .5 of a point . hopefully this russian thing will fall apart again and we can have eddie back if he has nowhere to go , similar to lewis , should make him realise how lucky he is . we want our boys that have become men with us . . reserves look excellent , probably the best pairing in the league .just shellshocked BD is gonna spend all that outlay on russian , especially after the way it went last time .for bobby to forgive him and with no other notable sponsor to take on all the expenditure . truly amazing
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| Kevin54 |
Reckon BD is banking on the fact that Denis "no-show" will come in on 4.00 points, no one will want Eddie, even at a "bargain" £45K, so he will change his mind and return to the fold. | ||||||||
| ray |
with you kevin .is bobby winding us up, and perhaps eddie , at what he is prepared personally to outlay for the russian .? | ||||||||
| MrB |
Still waiting to find out who the world class option to replace Ed is?! If as the Argus states we only have around 6 points left it will leave us very weak for top end strengh. | ||||||||
| samthepalaceman |
Denis will be a steal on 4.00 I have no qualms about him but who to replace Eddie will be difficult.
Zagar, Saifutdinov, Holta, Ulamek, Dryml, Vaculik just thinking out loud, don't want any of them really
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| Eagle1971 |
Argus says tonight...........
Martin Dugard rules out becoming Eagles boss 3:10pm Friday 12th December 2008 By Brian Owen » Martin Dugard has ruled out an immediate move into management at Eastbourne Eagles. But he insists he will still be around to help out. The former British GP winner and star Eagles rider has been asked by his father and club boss Bob to take a co-promoter’s role ahead of the 2009 season. Dugard junior, who undertakes an array of unsung tasks during the week and on race nights, said: “I’m still around to help. “I’m not interested in running the thing at the moment. “At some stage I could be but not at the moment.” Meanwhile, Martin Dugard admits there is no prospect of the Brighton Bonanza, or Indoor Speedway as it was called last season, making a quick return. The ten-year-old pre-Crristmas event did not take place this time around after he failed to agree terms with the Brighton Centre. Dugard said: “I’ve been trying to find different dates and a different venue but they are hard to come across. The hunt goes on.” |
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| peppapig |
news on rider breaking soon, think Ray will be pleased. . | ||||||||
| GazzaH |
Well I hope that Floppy is fit enough to compete, I would hate to see him return and become the shell of the rider he once was. Good luck Flops and I hope the season ahead is a success for you. | ||||||||
| MrB |
OMG!! Never saw that comming Can't believe my all time fave is back
Good luck Flops 
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| MrB |
The official site says hes the final rider but no mention of the sixth rider who signed I guess it must mean Kling has signed too? | ||||||||
| samthepalaceman |
Shocked me, probably would've been a good idea to use them spare points though. Glad to see Floppy back but our top end looks the worst in the league!!! | ||||||||
| ray |
the thought of floopy again , my favourite , oh yes peppapig wonderful news . has he got the ok medically ? none of us could bear seeing him hurt again . i will be very nervous and delighted at the same time .
so where is eddie going to go ? real serious news , martin has said no to bobby . but then so many seem to have done that on either side of the fence .so those two mentioned sponsors have not materialised either . well our best hope now to organise and promote the club is jane and the supporters club . the two so-called promoters are simply not up to that . worrying , when promoters and management are thought of , as with poole , lakeside , swindon and wolves and most others , it is clear we are literally not in their league . it is worrying , but maybe the team , and the fans will help win the day . though if floppy is ok , bobby will have done a lot to bring the fans back , it could actually turn out to be a masterstroke 
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| mmmmethanol |
Agree with Samthepalaceman - we had 1.3 still to play with.
Floppy is a legend & you could never tire of watching him - but that's in the past. I fear for the guys health & he's no spring chicken. Wonder if the hatchet has been buried with Mr Bridger? Can't help feeling this is not the right move. As for the team - great reserves, but our heatleaders are probably the weakest in the league. Oh dear. |
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| Bazra |
But Swindon only had one genuine heat leader last year & look what they did. |
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| mmmmethanol |
Er, finished 3rd & no silverware.... |
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| eon |
so the eagles team will be
Davey Watt Floppy Cam Simon Lewis Denis Ricky the jury is still out on how well we will do
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| Bazra |
And with the play-offs changing , maybe all we need to do is finish third or worse fourth. Spanners probably had better heat leaders then us last year & they won nothing. It's all about team work . I don't remember winning much when we had the worlds number one either. |
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| mmmmethanol |
Fair point, mate. I'm chuffed with the reserves. |
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| Bazra |
Your right great reserves, and for once we will have two heat leaders Davey & Dave who will encourage the other, pick them up when they are down, rally the troops, unlike lately when they just get slagged off. |
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| Kevin54 |
I must admit to mixed feelings regarding the news over David.
On the one hand, an inspired signing insofar as it will generate considerable publicity and interest for the club. But........, really how fit is he? 2007 was a very bad year healthwise for him. Head/brain injuries are not something to be taken lightly, the body is telling you that something is definately not right. Just supposing he suffered another bad fall? What could be the ramifications? The same could be said concerning Mark Loram. There is a time when riders we admire have to accept that their bodies have suffered enough punishment in the course of providing us entertainment and excitement, and leave us with fond memories of them in their prime. Maybe he can produce another magical season, and at the end of it finish injury free, with an 8 point average, but if went wrong how would we and the club feel? |
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| zena |
Yes yes yes Floppy is back !!!!!!!!!!!! | ||||||||
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| Eagle1971 |
Argus says...........
Norris returns for Eagles 7:17pm Friday 12th December 2008 By Brian Owen » Eastbourne Eagles record scorer David Norris is making a shock return to the Elite League. Norris, who quit the sport little more than a year ago after suffering a series of head injuries, will complete Eagles' line-up for next season. The 36-year-old, who is massively popular among Eagles fans, piled up 5,197 points from just 577 meetings and has been given the all-clear to return to the track. Eagles chief Bob Dugard and team manager Trevor Geer are finalising a deal with new reserve Ricky Kling tonight. That means Eagles will go into the new campaign with a team of Davey Watt (captain), Lewis Bridger, Cameron Woodward, Denis Gizatullin, Norris, Simon Gustafsson and Kling. ........so where's Ed going? |
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| ray |
bees , wolves and witches have not announced team or most of them . ed would have no other choices , but so quiet ==== expect bees . will his average fit ?
as for floppy , with you all , especially parker's statement . wouold bring manmy fans back if it works out ok === be absolutely wonderful . bad news martin not accepting bobby's offer . just two part -timers ---- bobby and trevor . for once i will make no comment , but am concerned . also the same goes for lack of sponsors/ backers . no more on the two potentials [ one a household name we are told] , no meridian or hagon , BB's already accounted for , lewis and russian on mega-deals ---- think bobby's new break-even estimate of attendances will not be sufficient . we have no real professional promoters or marketers , though supporters club have useful ideas , but that is not their job , and any initial income is earmarked for riders tyres . still one heatleader , but a terrific reserve pairing . we were weak in heats when james rode , but now 13 and 15 look the danger ones . |
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| GazzaH |
Hypothetically speaking....this coming season with Floppy returning to the fold, could be quite an inspired decision by him. If you look at the riders who will not be competing next year, (GP's etc) that should afford Floppy with his experience to at the very least, maintain his last CMA. On the other side of the coin it could very well improve when you consider, he has obtained some very good equipment in hand with Deano looking after him. I just hope that the Swindon hoodoo which has afflicted Floppys more recent career has now gone and he is able to contribute to the team for the whole season. What say you for the prospect of some vintage Floppy ..... | ||||||||
| coxy |
Ray, give the promotion a chance. You say you won't comment on but you've knocked them again. Barely into December and 4 months till the season starts. Things take time, especially if your promoter jumps ship, AGAIN. | ||||||||
| ray |
going on last season's experience and posts coxy . the atmosphere was not what was hoped for , the pits were a strangely quiet place to be . the team spirit and togetherness in the pits of earlier days simply was not there . appreciate this is difficult to build with riders moving from team to team almost every season .. it started reasonably well , the performance on the track very good , except our riders seemed to be riding against eachother , though i would except the lee/ cameron partnership from this . lewis was on his own , others went the same way .lee a great rider , but captaincy is either born to a person or not . trevor also was a periphial figure , ther seemed no one to unite them , to inspire with words as well as deeds . niggles , then worse crept in . without bobby asserting his strength and forcible personality channelled into the cup final period we would never have won it .
david and deano , as posted , lead --- they always have , so others can follow . there always has to be leaders to lead and inspire in all walks of life . |
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| ray |
but we have heard said that history repeats itself , as long as it is good for david and the eagles-- great . if not for either , and they may well be interlinked , then sackcloth and ashes !!
as for jane and the reborn supporters club they seem to have more idea and ambition on raising the support and intrest of supporters and investors than bobby and trevor . this is not a bitchy comment , it is a fact . nobody is good at everything . wish them every success and want to be kept informed of events . 50/50 expect to remain with same function as before , and funds used that way . only misgiving at this time is that funds raised , and support gained from sponsors is initially intended for riders tyres .obviously this being an official supporters club the club will have the say of where the income will be allocated . just one other point , when talking to members of the supporters club which ceased prior to last season some of their ideas , such as discos and other non-speedway / eagles events appeared to lack support and were at least partially responsible for the lack of intrest and subsequent failure . it would seem sensible for future events to concentrate on what is the common intrest of supporters , eagles and speedway . if riders also get involved in any way this is likely to provide more intrest and involvement by all . as for the injured riders fund , run by nick in the pits , jane is looking into this .the position is far from clear . items donated there are the property of the club , and were supposed to be passed to the supporters club . this was delayed due to martin hagon's departure , and must be passed to the supporters club asap from nick . 
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| 7oakseagle |
well I for one am thrilled to bits at the return of the legend.
Some of you speak as though he has not been riding for years. He has had a season out, not ten! The Elite League is nowhere near as strong as it was when Floppy last rode. He is Eastbourne through and through and could just provide the sort of inspiration we were missing last season. We have two decent heatleaders, not the strongest on paper but certainly no pushovers. We have the best 5 pointer in the league in Lewis, no question. We have the strongest reserve pairing in the league and if either Dennis or Ricky move into the main body of the team then either Simon or Cam drop down. I am very happy with the team and am now looking forward to the new season. Bring it on!! |
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| Travelator |
Couldn't agree with you more 7oakseagle...yeh glad our floppy is back Missed his wonderful character and know it is really in his heart to ride again..good luck to him Great start to the season with Deano's testimonial and both back in the pits
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| ray |
there will a big turnout for that one
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| sussexbulldog |
Unfortunately I won't be there as it is a Sunday
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| ashfordeagle |
It will be great to see Floppy racing again.
Welcome back, Dave. I hope you return to your previous form. The potential is there for this side to do well in the league this year. Every rider is capable of upping their average. Come on you Eagles!!! |
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| sussexbulldog |
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| Eagle1971 |
Argus says...........
Call too late for Richardson 2:00pm Monday 15th December 2008 By Brian Owen » Former Eastbourne skipper Lee Richardson has revealed he was offered a last-gasp chance to stay at Arlington. Richardson will spearhead a strong-looking Lakeside Hammers outfit next term after being snapped up by their ex-Eagles boss Jon Cook. As at Eastbourne last season, Richardson will be riding for the Essex club on a loan agreement from Swindon Robins, who cannot fit him into their average limit after retaining big-scoring Leigh Adams. Richardson had a re-think on plans to quit the Elite League when he realised he could be short of meetings. Eastbourne were among the clubs he could have joined, even after Davey Watt was given the No. 1 spot when it initially seemed Richardson would not be racing in England. But he revealed a move by Arlington chief Bob Dugard to bring him in as part of a re-shuffle after Edward Kennett put in a transfer request came too late. The Hastings-based racer, who skippered Eagles to their first honour in six years when they lifted the Knockout Cup in October, said: “Everything was being based around not racing in England with the amount of bikes and vans I was running. “I had a long chat with (sponsor) Martin Hagon, my wife and (manager) John Davies and decided to stay in England as well as riding in Poland and Sweden. “I got quite a few offers. I spoke to Bob and told him I would like to come back to Eastbourne. “After the Edward Kennett thing fell through I heard from him again. “With my reduction as a British rider and without bonus points my average is quite handy “I rang Bob and said it was too late. I had done a deal with Lakeside and, logistically, it’s not too bad for me going up there. “I had a long chat with Jon Cook. They seem to want to go forward .” Richardson also hinted Eagles might not have the financial clout to compete for top riders. He said: “Money has got a bit to do with it as well. Bob was cutting back. “I only spoke to Bob roughly about money but we didn’t really get fully into it.” Former Eagles star Scott Nicholls is among the big-name Grand Prix riders who have opted not to race for an English club next season. Richardson, whose bid to move back into the GP circus met with failure at the final qualifying hurdle, said: “If you look at people pulling out of Britain, they aren’t going to chase money. “It’s just so difficult to race in three leagues. “There are a lot of meetings in England. Yes, the money’s not as good but it’s also inconvenient with different race nights.” ..............Ed leaving because of the money? 
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| ray |
and still coventry have only signed schlein , stead has gone to swindon . harris is bound to stay surely . so reckon they are going for three heatleaders --- schlein , harris --- and eddie . with BB laying out so much on lewis and russian [ has latter actually signed ?] , helping our beloved floppy with no noticeable sponsors except BB again [ and that is fully allocated ] he couldn't afford eddie or lee . but bees and spanners have real sponorship and backers enabling them to offer better terms . noticeably eddie and lee are still sponsored by hagon too . think there must have been a falling out of some sort between hagon and bobby , maybe over the rent required for the national league team , maybe even lewis , but BB's trump card is the return of floppy--- that is bound to increase attendances so much will rest on floppy being and remaining fit , and how the russian goes --- providing he actually comes and is regularly available .
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| emjay |
Ah yes, the Russian. Has he signed? Will he ever show up? Will EB be able to afford the sort of things that were bandied about a few weeks ago. Bikes, vans, air fares ? | ||||||||
| sussexbulldog |
Do you mean BD ? According to story on our front page he has bought two bikes for Floppy from Hans Andersson. |
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| ray |
just checking you were alert david , ok , you passed bobby will be spending a small fortune , , but there are no other backers or sponsors [ apart from bob brimson ] .£ 1 entry to grandstand entry his only plan ?!!!! but as already posted by several of us let's see if the russian does actually do what we need him to do according to bobby . if not then bobby will have to find some one else , and put that money back in his piggy-bank . the team is not complete until all riders have agreed and signed , we've had that proved to us already by wishful thinking of management , look how that 7 has changed already . but those that have signed are really exciting and impressive .but we are still one sandwich short of a picnic .
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| Eagle1971 |
I think that the track will be too small for the russian myself. Much better if we replace the russian with Ed before the season starts then we will look a team that can challenge for honours on all fronts. |
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| ray |
would ed's average still fit ? if russian does not sign that will be another 4 points available , but the we would probably have to have a " james-type" , 3 pointer . anyway it has got to be coventry , only they and ipswich have not completed / nearly completed their line-ups and would still have room pointswise .
aussie2 had chat with david , he feels great . but the vibrations when riding must still be possible until he has tried it , let alone a knock on the head when falling . not being a pessimist , it is just that i , like so many others , are so thrilled with the fantastic news and we cannot help being nervous . when something means that much it can make people feel edgy at times .
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| sussexbulldog |
There would be 6.14 point left. Ed is 7.11 http://www.british-speedway.co.uk/elteams09.html |
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| Aussie2 |
Have just been on the BSPA site, and the average they are giving Gizatullin is 4.00, which according to them leaves us with 2.14. On the Eagles site they had him in as 5.00, so which is correct. Has Cam signed his contract yet, and has the Russian. Do not want to be left hanging as we were last season, when panic stations set in. I spoke to Floppy, and he is very upbeat, he will only be riding in the Elite League, so he will only need a British Licence. It is good to see him back, but like other fans will be hoping he has an injury free season and no bad falls.
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| sussexbulldog |
They are only on BSPA site when official. It was reported on a number of sites that the Russian would be 4.00 same as Swindon's Russian I believe. |
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| ray |
if it is pavlic , he is on 4 , and is a croat .think he will get christened bugs bunney , if you see what i mean . whether " carrots " or " carats " he's a golden asset .
suprised to see joe screen at poole , they have definately been weakened , but with the club spirit and management they can never be written off --- except in cup finals of course !
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| Londoneagle |
If Dennis doesn't feature this season and assuming the other 6 riders are confirmed, we have enough points left over to strengthen the middle order with a signing of a rider on over 6 pts (effectively the second highest av. in team) this in turn would drop Ricky to a reserve berth for the opening fixtures.....
Would the management consider this and more to the point, who is available? |
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| 7oakseagle |
If Eddie were not to get fixed up, unlikely though that is, we could swap Kling for Eddie. That would fit, I believe. | ||||||||
| sussexbulldog |
I think that would take us 0.07 over but I understand Eddie is being taken on by Coventry anyway. | ||||||||
| ray |
the silence has told us all we needed to know . so is it a full transfer ?, oh bobby not the first time you have over-reacted , if so how much . whatever we may get it will cost us dear in many ways .
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| Eagle1971 |
"Eagles’ new line-up, which includes a comeback for David Norris, has received stinging and widespread criticism from fans posting on speedway websites.
Dugard, however, said: “Myself and (team manager) Trevor Geer have been doing this for a long time and people should trust our judgement. We will now let the dust settle and have a look at the other teams being put together." ........My only criticism is that we are prepared to let Ed Kennett go. I feel we should have built our team around him really. We won the cup last year because we had three heatleaders who all won races. Will we have enough riders this season to win races? My last word on it. |
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| ashfordeagle |
It looks like all teams this year are struggling to fit 3 true heat leaders into their sides.
If a team builds with 2 strong heat leaders (primates), the rest of the team is made up of 4 & 5 point riders, hardly elite league. If Davey and Floppy do a good job, then we will be there or thereabouts regardless of what fans on other speedway websites are saying about the Eagles. |
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| ray |
that is simply not true on this website . yes there is concern and critisism , but there is a thread supporting bobby .trouble is , and always has been a lack of communication , and often lack of consideration . it was so promising at the initial meeting in the overflowing clubhouse last year . there seems to be a certain hostility towards this site because we post what we think . previous and one current sites are partially responsible for this , and would not allow criticism or awkward questions by the members of those sites , and were very much " party hacks ". the management in turn did not have the understanding , experience or capability to understand this . there are only two of them , both part-time . try though they might , and sometimes laudably successfully , they are not what the more professional full-timers are at some other clubs . davey and david , old favourites return -- excellent . just hope floppy is ok after what he has suffered .cameron too . new favourites -- simon and lewis who has now decided to stay .the russian == a gamble , and expensive one -- still not signed and may not materialise or be available enough and up to it . kling , an excellent acquasition .most could well achieve even better success this year. eddie , like lewis originally wanted away . we are fortunate not to have lost both . but we must learn not to slam doors shut as we have done before on riders who may wish to expand their experience and horizons . adam , to an extent joonas , almost lewis , and now eddie . riders move around every season . martin , floppy , deano and others all moved away at some time for some reason , but all came back and restarted eagles take off in 1993 . we produced these , as no other team ever has , we should not slam doors without long and serious thought . no knee-jerk reactions causing irrepearable damage to the future of our eagles .
so let us , with the aid of the expanded supporters club try and work together , talk and listen . as bobby said to his brother at poole when we won the cup " this is too good to lose ". |
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