Saturday 10th October - now Drapers Tools trophy v Poole

sussexbulldog · Saturday 10th October - now Drapers Tools trophy v Poole

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Won't be the last meeting as Eastbourne are part of a 3 team tournament with Poole and Ipswich. Poole due to visit Arlington on Sat 10th October with Eastbourne at Poole on Wednesday 14th October.

Aussie2

Will we able to use our season tickets Question

. Even if we have to pay my husband and I will still be their. Smile

geecee25

good news our season extended , does this mean there is a future. Get your long johns out then mr parker gets cold in poole and ipswich in october. do we no when the aussie boys head for home.

parker

sussexbulldog

From the Poole website :-

Kus is Coming

21 year old Czech International Matej Kus is one of the new faces that Pirates fans can cheer on when the club are involved in some end of season challenges against Eastbourne and Ipswich next month.

The original idea of a mini-league concept has not come to fruition and so the Pirates will be pitched against the Witches in the Coastal Windows Trophy and the Eagles in the Drapers Tool Trophy.

Kus, who has had experience of British racing having been a member of the Berwick Bandits side in 2007 and he made newspaper headlines when recovering from unconsciousness after a track crash. Kus, 18 at the time, woke and astonished the medical crew as he began talking in fluent English rather than the broken English he had been getting by on before the crash.
Kus, who scored 2 points for his country in this season's SWC round in Vojens, is one of a number of young riders that Poole boss Matt Ford has been following with interest, and he told www.poolespeedway.net "When we had the early season news about Jason (Doyle) and Kyle (Legault) being long term absentees I contacted Matej with a view to bringing him in for the season but he couldn't commit for a full term at that stage so we put the arrangement on ice at that time and Matej is certainly keen to come back to ride in Britain this year. Our matches against Ipswich and Eastbourne provides an ideal platform for us to give Matej a trial and I am pushing hard on trying to sort out formalities with a couple of other promising youngsters as well."
It is well known that father-to-be Bjarne Pedersen will step down from these meetings and spend more time looking after his partner Lone ahead of the birth of their child due on October 9th but it remains to be seen which of the other current crop of Pirates may step aside to allow the Poole management the opportunity to trial some new faces for prospective 2010 contracts.

MrB

Great news as I can't be there for the Ippo meeting Very Happy

I haven't seen my last speedway yet!

sussexbulldog

According to other side:

MrB

The Sun Trap Trophy Exclamation

Fingers crossed it doesn't rain! Laughing

Sam7

How about the powers that be trying to get Nicki P as a guest for this meeting. It would raise the profile as he is still the current world champion, and maybe would help to attract someone to promote next year.

sussexbulldog

Good idea. It would fall in line with the blueprint Cool

ComeOnYouSpurs

It would be great to see Nicki back in an Eagles suit.... and would really make the meeting an attractive proposition.

It would also be nice to have a proper no.1 instead of the poor excuse for one that we've had over the last few weeks.

ray

totally agree , especially a true number one eagle , even for one match only , not a failed number one that we would not travel to see . be a BIG crowd for that one , waata way to go out , wow Idea

emjay

Agree it would be nice to see Pedersen back. It is about the only thing that would lure me to an otherwise pointless meeting. But I guess it isn't going to happen. And the Aussies (if they have any sense) will have fled the oncoming English winter by then. So the teams will be patched up a bit. No thanks. For me, season 2009 is dead, buried and best forgotten. I'm far more interested in how the BSPA plan to cope with 2010. Sadly, I doubt if their plans will include Eastbourne, and frankly, I doubt if they care very much. Why oh why is it that so many sports seem to be run and administered by total incompetents. Governments too. Oops, sorry for the rant guys. Got a bit carried away -again!.

Kopster

Yes it would be nice to see Nicki P back in an Eagles suit but as it been said it will never happen. I mite be going to this meeting depending if I can find the funds for it. If this is going to be our last year then it sad to go out with a bad season and this is our 80th too which is sad.

MrB

Sam7

ComeOnYouSpurs

Any news on line-ups yet?

Surely they've got to do something out of the ordinary to make this a worthwhile and attractive proposition.

I'm not sure that I'd be making the journey just to watch the usual suspects in a meaningless meeting... especially if a certain Mr Watt is still wearing our no.1 race suit.

sussexbulldog

According to the other side Poole are using this to try out new riders without signing them.

Does not sound very spectacular but I shall still be there.

ray

think emjay , as usual , is right . if " they " make no effort to have it special then many of us will not bother . gotta be worth the time , journey and cost . think cam will be on his way back to oz so simon and lukas , maybe ricky too , are worth it --- but poole team will be a shadow . intrest now is in what , hopefully , may be happening next season . but as others post---- nicky would get me there too .

sussexbulldog

Bob agreed to this fixture to see what support there will be for next year. To me that means if you want speedway next year be there for whatever is on offer. It will be the riders' end of term speeches in any event and may be the last chance to meet old friends.

On that basis I am going to be there.

parker

ray

think you have a valid point about the attendance from the posts so far parker Rolling Eyes

Aussie2

Both myself and my husband will be their. If BD is using this to gauge whether supporters want speedway next year, then I suggest the fans go. If new promoters want to see what the support is like, and it is not a good crowd, then we could be up the swanee. Exclamation

ray

when fans literally live around the corner the time , trouble and expense are different, if many of us did we would be there too. appreciate a large crowd could possibly attract a new promoter , he would have been best to have attended when eagles had a full team against ipswich . anyway , waiting to see who is riding for both teams . the attendance will be intresting to see , doubtless parker will advise us Cool

sussexbulldog

Take your point Ray but if this is make or break time would you not agree that anyone should make it if they possibly can ? After a long day working in Eastbourne after getting up at 5.00 am it is tempting to go home without going to Arlington but I will be there.

parker

ray

agree , no blackmail or soft-soap will work for most, promote the meeting and then we can decide . as for " if ", we have been using that word all season . c'mon management , sell the meeting to us .if there is a financial loss for you at least it should be the last time . make it a winner like the ippo match , it's up to you .at this time it would seem to be an end of the season friendly with weakened teams . Rolling Eyes

geecee25

See on poole web site kids get in free with paying adult , for the leg at wimborne road , any thing for the home leg that we no about. possible poole team artur mroczka,dawid lamport,matej kus,hans anderson, joe screen, leon madsen , they are availible for their four challenge matches that 23/09/09 bournemouth daily echo. but i see now on poole web zorro and steve boxall in team for there match against ipswich , hope zorro rides against us should be entertainment.lets hope for a big crowd.

Sophies Mate

I also live locally - 4 miles from the track, and the only times the club gets promoted is the write ups in the local paper and the tie in that they have with Eastbourne Borough Football club as they donate 2 tickets in the raffle at the football and vice versa. Back in July I was on a VIP trip to the Coventry meeting as the company I work for bought a large machine from Dugards and we were given 30 free tickets and approx 8 people in our group all Eastbourne born and bred had never been or really knew about the speedway but I have to add 3 of them have attended a few meetings since as they enjoyed it so much.

sussexbulldog

This is the Poole team against Ipswich

1. Hans Andersen © (9.15)
2. Steve Boxall (3.44)
3. Joe Screen (6.52)
4. Matej Kus (4.00)
5. Magnus Zetterstrom (6.63)
6. Dawid Lampart (4.00)
7. Artur Mroczka (4.00)

parker

Sam7

ray

they were worth following then , think you have a short memory . i think i , and most other posters are right . see the lack of promoting from sophie's mate , you have to put in enough to get something out .selective memory aussie 2 . Cool

see likely poole team shown , no news of ours though . official website hoplessly out of date .what makes you think that match will change everything for the better ? anyway my wife's health , and very existance , makes such a post inconsiderate and unworthy .she came to the last match and said that was enough for this year . so i am hardly going to take notice of your opinion .you know the circumstances . really !!!! Shocked

MD

Gutted, I dont think I am able to make this now after all, got some season filling challenge meeting I have to do up at Rye House....

Crying or Very sad

Eagle1971

ray

on the button eagle1971 Cool

parker

Here we are the seasons ended 7 days away from the meeting and the only home rider announced (according to "the other side ") is Robin Aspergen a 24 year old Swede who rides for Elit Vetlanda in the Allsvenskan League in Sweden which is about our Premier League standard.

ray

oh dear ,well hardly a flame to light our fire . poole have 2 of their heatleaders absent and various guests unknown to us . aware pedersen was n/a coz of an addition to his family imminent . will holder and cam have set out back to oz by then? . looks like it . how will the named europeans cope with arlington on there visit ? potential attendees will want to know about lukas and simon mainly . Rolling Eyes

geecee25

No davey watt for first leg on saturday then , acccording to his web site he has got a long journey to latvia, for a placing meeting for atlas wroclaw against lokomotiv daugavpils which takes place on sunday , he will be availible for 2nd leg at poole. i suppose league matters in any country comes first , but dissapointing that home fans cant say bye whatever you think of him .

ray

so at best 5 eagles , even fewer genuine pirates .still a few days to go . Confused

MrB

ray

so a lot of thought and planning has been put into the fixture , date and team .what lemmings Shocked

this just about sums them up .well at least the road should be emptier , every possibility the stadium will be too . never mind , not that many locals are aware we exist anyway . they are promoters ?! Embarassed

nug

ray

cheaper than going to speedway . geunine stars there as well . still nuthin' about eagles team on official website . well , it is supposed top be part of the "promotion "after all Shocked

ComeOnYouSpurs

To the likes of Aussie2 who think that those like me and Ray should make the 2 hour plus trip regardless of whatever tripe is served up....

I'm afraid that despite the blackmail and threats about next year people will not come to Arlington to watch a sub standard meeting full of guests and unheard of riders.... specially if they still intend to charge full price.

2 or 3 of us from this website who may or may not turn up wont make tuppence worth of difference one way or the other.

Make it an attractive worthwhile meeting with a couple of star names and some decent promotion and the people will make the effort to come.

But it dont look like that's what's gonna be on offer!

ray

we are singing from the same song-sheet , thanks for your support COUS ,parker too plus quite a few pms. think BD may even lose more income after this one . never mind we know one local that will be there . Rolling Eyes

david and others going to be there , their choice and good luck to them . but we cannot accept critisism for not being proper supporters because our circumstances and choices are different to the one accusing us . Sad

nug

What do we think of the line up for sat then.
1 Bridger
2A Dryml
3 Gustafsson
4 Woodward
5 L Dryml
6 Kling
7 Aspegren

Hardly a priemer league team that some fans are saying is it, i shall be going in what could be the last meeting seen at arlington but i doubt this will be as Ales and Aspegren are being looked at. Looked at for what i ask myself, more cryptic (bullsh*t) clues coming from the management,

sussexbulldog

It does seem strange trying out riders if we are not running in 2010. ?

Not a bad lineup. Cool

MD

looks like I may be at Arlo on Saturday after all.... Wink

MrB

If this wasn't our last fixture I'd be giving this fixture a wide birth! Poor teams IMO and after I originally said this fixture was a good idea I'm now thinking the oposite!

If any prospective promoter thinks this meeting is a gauge for next year they must be mad Twisted Evil

parker

sussexbulldog

nug

Some fans Sussex wouldnt be happy if we had 7 Nicki Pedersens riding for us.

MD

looks like I wont be going again now, it does my head in.

Yesterday morning we are doing the Rye meeting, yesterday afternoon we are guesting for Poole at Eastbourne, now I have no idea whats going on apart from keep the date open!!!!

parker

nug

If we are to run then i think the above team is a million miles away from what it would be. Its a bunch os seven riders who have agreed to do an extra meeting.

geecee25

At least its seven riders , and not our old mate r/r, well at moment, and five of our team . yes would support them next season who ever in team . and whatever league

sussexbulldog

Poole Pirates

1 Hans Andersen
2 Steve Boxhall
3 Joe Screen
4 TBC
5 Magnus Zettestrom
6 Dawid Lampart
7 Artur Mroczka

parker

Should be quite enjoyable evening, weather permitting.Its a better Eagles team than I expected

Eagle1971

Eagle1971

[quote="parker

1 Bridger
2A Dryml
3 Gustafsson
4 Woodward
5 L Dryml
6 Kling
7 Aspegren

If this was to be our Elite team for next season would you follow it ?[/quote]

The second question is - If you were the new Promoter would you put this team out?

My answer is no because the Promoter is going to lose a lot of money with this bunch

ray

well we have been told by BD that bridger was promised a transfer next season , and got an amazing deal financially . so thoughts of him being with eagles are not worth harbouring . his polish sponsors and bridger racing here want him to concentrate on poland . so that is where his future would seem to lie . this would be likely true even if eagles are in elite in 2010 . would much prefer nicky , but that is pie in the sky too . but nicky has always considered eagles and has never let us down , so at least he is worth fantasising about . kennett was wanting away , but can understand young riders wanting to move on , get wider experience and progress with their careers . but if it was not for eagles they would never have had such careers in the first place .await november , then maybe we can think about an eagles team in another division . if no elite , it is that or nuthin' . agree completely if we do return to elite we should start with simon and lukas first . Idea

MrB

MrB

harryhagfors

Robin Aspegren rides for Vetlanda, who are in the Swedish Elite league. They lost in the play- off semi-final mainly because of Jason Crumps injury. Robin also doubled down and rode for Valsarna in the Allsvenskan league, a league at least on a par with our premier league, some would say its an even higher standard than our premier league. As you all probably know, Robin was part of Valsarnas triumphant table topping and play-off winning team. Next year will see Valsarna riding against Vetlanda in the Elite league, but who will Robin be riding for?

sussexbulldog

Official press release

The Eastbourne Eagles roll out the red carpet at Arlington stadium one final time in season 2009 this coming Saturday evening (7.30 p.m. start time) as they finish the campaign just as they had started it with a visit from long time rivals from down the South Coast, the Poole Pirates.

Of course this will now offer the Sussex clubs patrons the final opportunity of seeing their heroes in action around their own circuit but furthermore, if Eastbourne’s doomsday scenario is realised and nobody steps forward to take over t he promotional reins from Bob Dugard, the Arlington supremo intending retirement after a virtual lifetime’s involvement with the Eagles, this could also prove the club’s swansong. The message is therefore clear, come and get it while you can.

The two teams, both of whom would no doubt claim to have suffered disappointing seasons bearing in mind past successes but undoubtedly each will be keen to end the year on a high and victory over the other in the two legged Draper Tools Trophy would surely raise dampened spirits.

Despite the uncertainty that currently envelopes the clubs future, Dugard is still intent on putting a plan in place for 2010 and with the Poole mindset also being one focussed upon tomorrow, supporters of both the Eagles and the Pirates should expect unfamiliar faces in the respective line ups.

Eastbourne will be tracking Ales Dryml as a guest replacement for the absent Davey Watt while also offering a run out to 20 year old Swede Robin Aspegren who forms a reserve partnership with fellow Countryman Ricky Kling.

For the Pirates, experienced Dane Hans Andersen, who’s mid season inclusion in the Dorset outfits septet ruffled feathers throughout Elite League circles, will lead the charge but with forward thinking more their watch word the visitors also include highly rated Polish duo Dawid Lampart and Artur Mroczka in the lower order of their side.
Both men, each of whom are 19-years of age, come with the highest recommendation from their home country but further to that the results are already there to see. Lampart and Mroczka have both tasted success on the World stage with vital performances in both the Polish under 19 and under 21 teams. In addition, Mroczka can also claim victory in both the individual under-19 European Championship and the Polish Bronze (U-19) helmet, his successes in each event coming in season 2008.
Another welcome returnee to the Poole line up is that of Magnus Zetterstrom, who of course proved an integral member of the Pirates septet as they lifted the Elite League title last term. The highly experienced Swede steps back into the Wimborne Road line up as a late season replacement for Dane Bjarne Pedersen and undoubtedly he will still be on a high after claiming a place in next years Grand Prix series courtesy of a commanding display, but nevertheless deserved victory in the recent Grand Prix Challenge meeting at Coventry.
With the equally experienced duo of Joe Screen, a former Eastbourne Captain of course, and Steve Johnston – a guest replacement for Czech Republican Matej Kus who returns to the Pirates fold in the return leg on Wednesday October 14th – the Eagles will once again need to be on their guard. Certainly they will want to en d the season on a high note, and one final success over the Pirates will prove just what the doctor ordered. They opened the season by claiming the Elite Shield from their great rivals before a draw in Dorset and a subsequent victory at Arlington seized the bragging rights for the Sussex side in the Elite League clashes on Good Friday.
A further 2-point victory for the Eagles at Wimborne Road somewhat spoiled the Pirates party as Andersen made his return to the fold in early June but nevertheless the last word belonged to Neil Middleditch’s men as they not only claimed the Elite League pairs title, Andersen and Chris Holder outgunning Watt and Lewis Bridger, at Arlington, but also upset the Eagles apple cart with a 48-41 win (both in August) as they endeavoured to avoid the league cellar position.
Revenge will therefore be the Eagles motivation once again as they prepare to close the doors on their eightieth season, and potentially for the final time tomorrow (Saturday) evening.

Teams :

Eagles : 1. Lewis Bridger, 2. Ales Dryml (Guest for Davey Watt), 3. Simon Gustafsson, 4. Cameron Woodward, 5. Lukas Dryml, 6. Ricky Kling, 7. Robin Aspegren

Pirates : 1. Hans Andersen, 2. Steve Boxall, 3. Joe Screen 4. Steve Johnston (Guest for Matej Kus), 5. Magnus Zetterstrom, 6. Dawid Lampart, 7. Artur Mroczka

wotsits

ray

got my vote wotsits Very Happy

, but question richardson's commitment , never doubted nicky's .must have a proper number one ,a great rider , an inspiration ,a leader on and off the track ,someone who team and fans trust , an icon , some one who commands respect , we have had this particularly martin and nicky . Idea

Eagle1971

The teams that are challenging for the title are always the teams that have two decent heatleaders. ie Wolves - Peter Karlsson/Freddie Lindgren & Swindon - Leigh Adams/Matej Zagar.

We always say we won't do that. Instead we will go for a more balanced team meaning we are strong at reserve.

Everybody on here says a good move that........but it isn't are we always finish the season down near the bottom. The season we won it we had Martin Dugard and Joe Screen at I & 3.

All the time we continue like this we will continue to be near the bottom and any promoter will make a loss. Crying or Very sad

sussexbulldog

You are quite right that the last time we won the League we had two strong heat leaders but I also believe that we should leave enough margin not to end up with two 3 point reserves, unless of course they are on false averages.

Difficult decision but I feel that the crowds fell off because we did not have a big star at number 1. That role was too much to ask of Davey Watt but if he were combined with Lee or Scott then he would do the job without all the extra pressure.

Again Lewis was given too much pressure too early. In the unlikely event that he stayed with Eastbourne you could put him as the second heat leader as it sounds like Davey is headed back to Poole anyway.

ComeOnYouSpurs

So Sussex Bulldog has heard that Watt is returning to Poole.... on a falsely low average.... thanks to his pathetic efforts for us over the latter part of the season....

Now didn't someone suggest some time ago that something a little fishy might be going on in that regard.... oh yes.... it was me!

What (Watt) a suprise!!!

sussexbulldog

parker

emjay

COUS, I do admire your crystal ball (singular of course). The government needs people like you!!

Eagle1971

MrB

speedy dan boy

mr B i dont know if you can remember when you took photos of riders doing practice pre season at eastbourne but Aspergren appeared in them mainly because hes ricky klings mate!! I dont know if he was after a team place when he came over or just wanted a spin.can you remember anything about him?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2448...8755726/in/set-72157614217859423/
hope you dont mind me digging this pic out without your permission first

MrB

ComeOnYouSpurs

Kopster

We could all see what was happening to Watt. Just ashame that this has to come into to speedway. I hope that if Eastbourne to stay alive for many years that Watt doesn't ride for us again Evil or Very Mad

. I also thought that this meeting was to pull in the crowds and a new promotor but with that line up we are not going to see many there at all. Should had brought in a proper number 1 too. Maybe we are going to be on next weeks Harry Hill's T.V Burp.

ray

agree totally kopster , watt only riding in an away leg [ he can leg it away as soon as he likes Idea

] ideal opportunity to bring in a star guest , if it had been nicky the attendance would be wortwhile and even help defray the promotions losses not many of us would have missed that Idea

but no , no idea of promoting again . certanly it may have attracted a possible new elite promoter , if there was one , as well as fans , maybe sponsors etc , but they and us will never know that now .we are informed there is intrest in promoting eagles at a lower level , hagon tried that this year , but even as a son-in-law he was priced out . hope it is realised that this may be the only way eagles may race next year . Idea

emjay

Well said Ray

ray

cheers mate . how's the hip Question

samthepalaceman

I hope that a lot of people attend tomorrow as it could be the last ever meeting at Eastbourne but more importantly a really good crowd may encourage a new promoter.

nug

Does anyone know of a promoter going tomorrow then.

MrB

Kevin54

According to BSF Screen's out, Batchelor is in, Screen has a shoulder injury!!

Kopster

that makes them stronger then.

ray

this is the most pages on any of the home matches , but then now there is so much to think about and be concerned about Rolling Eyes

MrB

What a bizaar end! what was all that about Question

parker

Are you talking about the punch up at the end? I believe that might have something to do with Floppys last ride and that the opportunity for pay back resulted in a team brawl (Something that doesnt happen in football Aussie Wink

) what about BD's new scheme to save the club - At the dinner dance he was approached by 8 different people each offing a £1k each to help keep the club going Bobs thought about this and if 100 did that then that would raise £100k of which £60k would be used to finance the team for next season the other £40 would be used as prize money for a raffle every home meeting for those who had paid their £1k. The top prize would be a £1K, £650second and third £350 giving those participating a chance to get their money back. It has its merits to a point where I stand I'm sure that theres 10 of us that could scape together £100each giving that little syndicate a chance of being in something like a bigger 50/50 club. My honest opinion is that we will be running again next season I think theres something going on behind the scenes to much talk about the planning etc for next season for it to end. Aslo Matt Fraud when interviewed said that there need to be big changes in the BSPA at the next AGM well we know Russell going but he did stop short at accepted that maybe the sport needed an independant body running it.

Sophies Mate

The fight was due to Lewis's Grandad Tony, it seems that Troy Batchelor had been winding Lewis up all meeting and by the end of the last race he finally snapped - have to admit he had been drinking (Tony) so that didn't help but Tony did start it and tried punching Troy but all he got was a cut above his eye which needed steri strips and probably a nice black eye. It was uncalled for and a terrible end to the last meeting.The one thing that made me laugh was Hans Anderson saying he loves these 'Friendly' matches.

ray

i'll join your syndicate parker . watta great idea Very Happy

Tweagle · Good Idea - I'm in.

I'll join the syndicate too Parker.

speedy dan boy

Lewis and Troy ar due to ride in the under 25 test match at ipswich on thursday,i just hope things dont get out of hand!

ray

out of hand , sounds more likely a fist .was floppy involved , or was it pay-back for him ? Rolling Eyes

Sophies Mate

No Floppy was not involved he was far too merry to join in!!

ray

thanks michelle . wouldn't he be a marvellous team manager , experienced and qualified in every way , and a true eagle . Idea

Kopster

Kevin54

Saturday 10th October - now Drapers Tools trophy v Poole

Good Idea - I'm in.