Eddie Kennett

speedy dan boy · Eddie Kennett

Looks like Ed has pulled out of the meeting at ipswich while guesting for the spanners with concussion after a couple of pointless rides.hope he is going to be ok.

Bazra

Updates has him down for 3+1 from four, and with Ipo losing & looking likely too lose, could we catch 'em still?

speedy dan boy

well spotted Bazra and thanks for the update.Is it possible? maths wasnt one of my strongest subjects!!!

Bazra

Home win on Sat has us level on points. God knows how we get seperated if we do finish level on points. And with the 25th the cut off date & bad weather hitting....who knows?

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IPSWICH = 44

1. Piotr Swiderski: 1. 3. 4^. 3. 2. 3
2. Tobi Kroner: Fx. WITHDRAWN
3. R/R Jarek Hampel:
4. Simon Lambert(G): 0. 0. 0
5. Rory Schlein: 3. 3. ef. 2. 0^. 1'. 2'
6. Steve Johnston: 2. 2. 2. 2. 1'. 3
7. Chris Schramm: 1'. 1. 1. 0. 1. 1'. 0

LAKESIDE = 48

1. Andreas Jonsson: 3. 3. 3. 3. 3
2. Leigh Lanham: 2'. 1'. 1. 1. 0. 0
3. R/R Adam Shields :
4. Tomas Topinka (G): 2. 3. 0. 1'. 2. 1
5. Edward Kennett(G): Fx. ef. 1. 2' WITHDRAWN
6. Ricky Kling: F. WITHDRAWN
7. Kauko Nieminen(G): 3. 2. 2. 3. 3. 2. 1'

Full report

http://speedwayupdates.proboards1...mp;action=display&thread=3083

Hope Ed is ok.

ashfordeagle

Bazra

Having looked at the date the 25th is their race night (thursday). I'm sure they have a cut off time for their meetings to be over, so pushing two meetings on one night is going to be tricky Very Happy

speedy dan boy

Ed has signed for the new vojens team in Denmark.Ole Olsen built the track but i dont know if hes the promoter there next season.

rayjay2

hope ed can cope with the " fuhrer " , so he didn't die in berlin , escaped to denmark , plastic surgery changed his appearance , but not his nature . Laughing

Bazra

So it seems that Eddie does not really want to leave on a permanent transfer just on loan & would like to go to Coventry, yet is seem they can't fit him in. Peterborough can and have offered money (less then what we wanted) but Eddie does not want to go there. I wonder if there is a chance of him retracting his transfer request and riding for us otherwise I feel he won't have a team for 2009. Being that he is one of GB's best young talents I find this totally stupid if we want the sport over here to progress.

ray

bazra , with you , unfortunately i have posted about eddie on the team and management thread my thoughts that are similar . maybe david will move my post to the correct thread with yours . Cool

ray

so swindon have signed stead . straight transfer with aces for gjedde . other teams announcing , where will eddie be left with to join ? is it a cunning baldric plan ? Surprised

nug

I dont think it has anythink to do with bridger why kennett wants away, reading inbetween the lines i fell more like its hagon kennetts main sponser that wants him away from eastbourne. Hagon has obviously fallen out with bob with the lewis affair last season and the fact he wants to much rent for the national league team, i also read in the star that it was hagon who sorted out the move for richardson to the spanners

samthepalaceman

I reckon it was down to the ridiculous sum of money BD is paying Bridger next season.

Aussie2

sussexbulldog

He was referring to the article in the Bournemouth Daily Echo quoting Lewis :-

http://whereeaglesdaretofly.myfreeforum.org/ftopic497-90.php

parker

samthepalaceman

ray

please let commonsense prevail , give the team what they need , the fans what they want --- now there is room to keep eddie with russian's 4 point assessment . no more prevaracating , sign him .who else could you find as a heatleader , we must have two , and where else can eddie go . as for terms , agree that is nobody's business except the one paying , and the one recieving . Very Happy

ray

has to be coventry now , looking at the other teams , none would seem to be able to fit him in . as the price to be decided is so far apart between those concerned it will probably have to be a loan agreement for 2009 . after that who knows where he will go . maybe he will get his way and only stay away next season or another too then return . Idea

Kevin54

If Coventry do sign him, having already signed Harris and Barker, it would leave them with around 7 points for the last 2 places.
Potentially weak at the tail end, and we know what an Achilles heel that proved Exclamation

Hope Eddie is prepared for a season of HGV driving Exclamation

ray

certainly mean no place for janniro , who , bearing in mind the team strengths are lesser this coming season , would have been their third heatleader ---they consider ollie allen a better prospect , and has probably a lower average .

parker

I see Eddie finished 4th in Pooles New Year Classic, Result as follows:- 1st Ben Barker, 2nd Adam Skorncki, 3rd Jankowski, 4th Eddie Kennett Wink

emjay

Thanks Parker. Where did Lewis finish?

Kevin54

parker

Not many places let for Eddie, now only Coventry with any real positions left would certainly make them Favourites if he went there .

ray

that would leave them with 3 heatleaders and ollie allen .the other 3 would be very weak at the tail , hence my earlier comments that we could get 5-1s in heats 2 and either 8 or 14 . 4-2s in several others . what points would they have left ? janniro would be missed . Cool

parker

ray

oops , you're right . just noticed it too as a checked the current team lists i keep . see i corrected [ well got my so to ] your christian name on your e-mail address . Wink

still if they have two " james brundles " we should be ok in some heats as well as 2 . any news of him by the way ?

Aussie2

Got today's Hailsham Gazette, and there is quite an article about Ed. For Eagles fans it is highly upsetting, if it is true as reported. BD has said "He has told us he hates riding at Eastbourne". Shocked

I would rather not see him ride for us if that is his attitude. BD also said that he wanted to transfer him to Poole for the 2008 season, but Ed had a big dispute with their captain Bjarne Pedersen. This is a kick in the teeth for the fans who supported him last season. Reported fee BD is asking is £30,000, but if it does not materialise he could rejig the Eagles team to accommodate him. I would rather he did not sign him, we only want people who "WANT TO RIDE FOR THE EAGLES".

mmmmethanol

Aussie - I wonder how much of this is BD laying it on a bit thick?

He seemingly changes his tune every week. First he's gonna be sold, then loaned, then he can be accomodated. BD is the boss, but there are so many mixed messages.

Once again, hardly the perfect build-up to a new season!

Aussie2

sussex bulldog

emjay

Surely the easiest way to sort it out is to leave the team as it is. At least that would show loyalty to the team already picked. All this faffing around seems to me to be absurd. It makes the EB management look ridiculous. There is life after Kennett, just as there is life after Richardson and Nicholls. I wonder what the skipper and the team manager think of all this. Or have they not been consulted.

nug

I see no reason as to why bob would lie. Remember back to first meeting of last season when speaking to kev commbes ed did state that he was only helping out for the season which a few of us on here said was strange. If no club can agree a price then that is that and ed will have to sit out im afraid

speedy dan boy

i may have missed something here but didnt Peterb agree a £45.000 fee with Bob? i know Ed didnt want to go there but why now has it come down to 30.000 asking price for Ed

nug

It seems to me that Ed is not being that easy to deal with. Turning down poole last season peterboro this year but has put in a transfer request as he hates riding at eastbourne. Its just as well alex fergurson is not his manager cos he wouldnt put up with it.

Bazra

Kevin54

If what is reported is true, then the sooner he goes the better.

I had hoped that the situation could have been resolved so he could have been fitted in, but not now.

Let him go, preferably for a decent fee that can be reinvested in the club.

It's one thing to say you want a year away,(again!), but comments of that nature go one step further and are a stab in the back to the promotion.

There is no place in the club for someone like that.

mmmmethanol

I haven't seen the actual article.
Apparently it's BD who says Ed hates riding here.
That might just put a different emphasis on things.......
He looked like he was enjoying himself last season, with no shortage of team riding.
I think it's fair to say in this situation that neither BD or Ed have exactly covered themselves in glory.

mmmmethanol

Latest from The Argus -

Eagles agree Kennett fee

7:10am Thursday 15th January 2009
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By Brian Owen »

Eastbourne Eagles have agreed a deal with another Elite League club for Edward Kennett.

But the club concerned are not Coventry.

Kennett was keen to move to the Brandon outfit, who had two bids knocked back by Eagles promoter Bob Dugard.

Now Dugard has agreed a price of £25,000 plus a rider for Kennett.

The buying club, whose identity is not yet being revealed, cannot fit Kennett into their 2009 line-up but would loan him out for a season.

Which means he could yet get his year with the Bees after all.

All the transfer requires now is the agreement of Kennett himself when he returns from a ski trip.

Dugard had suggested Kennett could yet be back at Arlington next season as he struggled to agree a price with Coventry.

But that, and any late rejig in the Eagles line-up, now looks unlikely.

Russian champion Denis Gizatullin has been confirmed as a four-point rider for the new season which means he goes at reserve alongside Simon Gustafsson.

Appe Mustonen, originally named at reserve for Eagles before Kennett’s transfer request led to a re-think, will still have a chance to shine in England.

The Finnish teenager will come across before the new season and Dugard will try to find him a Premier League track if he looks the part.

sussex bulldog

Let us hope that this matter is now closed.

ray

so the mystery club is professional and forward looking and he will not be able to be fitted in this year . three clubs most likely to fill this description would seem to be primates , spanners and wolves . what if a loan fee cannot be agreed !? Surprised

, and with present line-ups only bees could do this , or will they find somebody else . their top 4 at present look very strong , with eddie they would be hot favourites for trophies .
if what has been quoted turns out to be true as to what eddie feels about eagles then i will switch with other posters , if he is really that ungrateful and disrespectful then go . hope he doesn't get an elite team this year . but let us see just what was said . does he have his own website that he could respond on ?

mmmmethanol

sussex bulldog

It seems that it is not all over yet.

Coventry are determined to buy Ed and are going to arbritation.

COVENTRY promoter Colin Pratt has issued the following reaction to reports that Eastbourne boss Bob Dugard has agreed to sell Edward Kennett to another Elite League club.

The report states that a deal of £25,000 plus a rider exchange has been arranged with the un-named club, who would then loan Kennett out for the season as they have already completed their team.

Such a move would require the consent of Kennett himself, who has already put in a transfer request to the Eagles.

Pratt said: "We made our final offer to Eastbourne for Edward at the BSPA on Tuesday, and this was refused.

"This was following Edward's transfer request made earlier this winter, in which he stated his desire to move from Eastbourne to Coventry.

"We felt that the fee Bob Dugard was asking for Edward was ridiculous, but likewise he felt the same about our offer.

"At the end of the day, it will go to arbitration because the rider will always go where he wants to go.

"What Bob must remember is that he is not dealing with cattle in a cattle market, he is dealing with human beings and sportsmen.

"The move will go to arbitration after 28 days have elapsed from Edward's transfer request and we will take it from there.

"In the initial discussions, Bob told us he did not want a loan deal, he wanted to sell him. Bob cannot sell Edward to another club without Edward's agreement, and Edward has said he wants to move to Coventry."

That is of course if he does not approve the deal brokered by Bob.

It is worse than trying to sell a house. Laughing

ray

H.I.P [HIP HOORAY ] is still necessary with house sales . now await the name of the mystery club and kennett's decision [ don't call him eddie anymore !] . so a fee will have to be agreed , maybe by tribunal too , all too distracting really , it is eagles that are important Cool

Kevin54

sussex bulldog

ray

mr pratt always has , and still does , look miserable .sure he does a good job , and sure sandhu and the bees fans think the world of him . wouldn't it be a shame if he was made miserable again Smile

. this outcome will be most intresting and could well set a precedent . but hey , hope he and kennett get what they deserve , and more importantly so does bobby , the eagles and us . Very Happy

speedy dan boy

arbitration interesting!!! who decides then?!!! And if BD isnt happy with it all hell could brake loose!!!

Aussie2

ray

neither parties have to disclose that info aussie2 , but if one hears the other stating a version that is objected to then both parties may decide to disclose . colin pratt is putting his oar into the water and living up to his name . all that matters to us is kennett wants away --- then GO Cool

Aussie2

Seems as though this saga has a way to go. Starting to get a bit nasty, perhaps it would have been better for Colin Pratt to have kept his mouth shut. It does not help speedway to see the acrimony that is happening among the promoters.

ray

aussie2 sent me article from hailsham gazette . kennett hates it at eastbourne ! well if he doesn't get a loan at coventry , unless another team changes it's line up , let him have an even more hateful experience --- shut out of british speedway for a season . if our team is as good as we are told and most of us believe we don't want kennett anyway . not doubting bobby but if the boy has any sense at all he will put his side forward . does he not have a web-site ? maybe an item in a paper , if he does not do so then obviously he really doesn't like us .what is more he , unlike a certain other rider who left [ adam ] , will deserve to no longer be accepted as he used to .
as for pratt , by name and nature , he always looks as if he is sulking . let us hope at least now he will have good reason to . be most intrested if kennett agrees or not to join this mystery team but not ride until 2010 .
kennetts seem to come and go , unlike the dugards who ARE eastbourne speedway . not being nasty , it is simply a fact . Cool

parker

I dont know why some people are bleating about Colin Pratt for . How many times have we posted on here about wanting to know whats going on and now it appears we now know both BD's position and Colin Pratts. We berated Shields when he left without knowing the full facts now we seem to be doing the same to Kennett. We dont know what was said between Bob and Eddie, may be they both said things, dug their heels in and now theres an impasse. We all seem to be happy with the team we've got without Eddie so if he wants out sell him. Might as well get something for him.

ps Kevin I dont think Bob could make Eddie go somewhere he didnt want to go contract or no contract. its similar in Professional Football if they dont what to go to another club they dont seem to.

mmmmethanol

Ray - Sorry mate, but with respect, sometimes it appears you change your tune more than a radio playlist.
BD was public enemy No.1 & Ed was a fine chap a few weeks ago. Now it appears you believe everything BD comes out with.
Ed is apparently on holiday, which probably isn't common knowledge, but it's a bit of a sweeping statement to say if he doesn't go public, then he dislikes us. The way he rode for us last season - did that look like he hated Arlington?

Both of us are grateful to BD for the club, as without him it would probably have folded. But lets get some perspective on this - Neither of us will ever know the full story.

Please don't take this as a personal dig. I believe totally in attack the post, not the poster.
I know the bottom line is that, like me, you're passionate about the club. Just a pity that there are times when the way some of the riders & management conduct themselves is barely worthy of your or my support.

Kevin54

ray

chris , yes i have changed my mind on many things in this life . this includes speedway . what is good for our eagles is good for me . bobby is not usually one for taking prisoners . i am fully aware of this and have experienced it myself . the situation about adam has been explained already on this site , but i was never against him . adam and i had become friends , so i could form my own opinion anyway . i have suggested that kennett puts his side quite clearly , but as i hardly know him i do not have the personal knowledge to give an opinion . i have made this abundantly clear . obviously there has become an issue from this dispute , and there are two sides , at least , to every disagreement . i have posted stating on the basis of what has been reported so far , and have yet to be aware of anything else . i have said IF , which is clear enough .yes i have been amongst those who have criticised BD in the past . but i have posted my appreciation also . what is so strange about that ?
i do not take your post as a personal attack but don't understand where your post , mine , and others are so very different . just different slants really . we may never know the full facts , but at the end of the day it is for the two people involved to make a decision that will be as good as possible between them .
colin pratt has expressed his comments , these are mostly , as ever , complaining about others . yes , even as a rider he has always come across as sulking , sometimes even surly . nothing new there . but the fact remains that kennett may come or go , BD says he would still have him back . but BD isn't going anywhere .have i made myself clearer this time , do hope so , for we are posting about the same thing , the eastbourne eagles the team we support . Cool

we want what is best for them , as others have already posted .

nug

It dont matter to me or you if kennett only wants to go to coventry or if Bob wants 50 million for him,but im confused, unless im corrected bob owns his contract to ride speedway,now if bob agrees to sale that contract to wolves for example what right has kennet got to say no.If its cause thats not what kennett wants then whats the point of having any assets as it seems that the riders have the upperhand. i agree if the rider dont want to leave but kennett does.

samthepalaceman

What did it actually say in the Hailsham Gazette as when I went to get it in Budgens Hailsham is was last weeks!

parker

ray

sure you are right parker .if a rider insists in leaving for a particular club and refuses to ride for his existing one both parties have to get something out of it . if existing team cancels the contract then the rider is a free agent and can be signed for nothing . therefore he has to be sold or loaned out for the vendor to make something out of it . a rider has a preference then will seek to join the new club .
we have been told already this season that other tracks wanted davey watt on loan and poole were offered more by at least one undisclosed track than we paid , but he insisted on re-joining eagles . kennett refused to join peterboro' when they agreed bobby's asking price .

Kevin54

A flurry of posts on "The other side" say that Kennett has been sold to the pond dwellers for £25,000, with Adam Shields as the "swop" rider.

Theoretically valuing Adam at £5,000 Confused

if BDs' acceptable figure of £30,000 is taken as a base line.

Kennett would then get his wish to ride for Coventry as he would be loaned out this season and in the team for 2010; Adam presumably would be in our squad in 2010.

Over to you, MD Exclamation

citrus

is this true if so good we dont want any rider who doesnt by his own admission want to be here although an excellent prospect much rather have a committed rider who gives his all for the eagles roll on march so we can forget the politics and get onwith the sport Laughing

MD

Kevin54

sussex bulldog

EASTBOURNE promoter Bob Dugard says he is resigned to going to arbitration with Coventry over the ongoing transfer of Edward Kennett.
Dugard's recent stance that he had agreed a fee with another club for the rider was rebuffed by Bees boss Colin Pratt, who insisted that Kennett would only be transferred to where he wants to go - and he has reportedly agreed terms at Brandon.
With a month having elapsed since Kennett's transfer request, Coventry are entitled to request arbitration on behalf of the rider, and Pratt has indicated this will take place.
He said: "I've got to send off a letter to the SCB setting out the position and requesting the hearing, having waited 28 days as I previously explained.
"We've been through this procedure before, most recently with Scott Nicholls, and although we don't know when exactly it will take place, Edward has agreed to ride for us and we're pleased he's coming here."
Dugard, who had initially slapped an £80,000 transfer fee on Kennett's head, knows he will have to accept far less than that - although he hopes it will be significantly more than Coventry's latest reported offer.
He said: "Coventry have reduced their offer to £15,000 which I see as a bargaining tactic by them before going to arbitration.
"They are experts in these matters whereas I have never been to arbitration over a rider, but I'll go in there and give it my best."

ray

in which case which is the other team mentioned . could likely be the primates or the spanners , both of which kennett may well find acceptable , and bees pay that team a loan fee when bobby has agreed a fee and recieved it .what makes pratt think kennett would refuse to join every other club . what about the rider in part-exchange , or is this all smoke and mirrors .?! cannot see who that might be at coventry . poole and lakeside both have a rider we would welcome , both have worn " the eagle " .as posted earlier , pratt always has looked miserable and been a grumbler even back in his riding days . hope he has reason to this time . Smile

as for kennett , after all that has happened and what has been said it is eagles that matter to us and most of us have no sympathy or patience left for some one that has no respect , liking , or consideration for eagles management or fans . thought he might have explained in the local papers the situation .

Aussie2

To be honest I am sick and tired of the Kennett saga, as I am sure many of us are. Mad

I agree with Ray that perhaps it would have been better if he had replied in the papers the why's and wherefore's. I hope BD gets as much as he can for him. What happens if BD does not agree the valuation, after all he does own his contract. I hope he gets as much as he can. After all he learned much of his trade at Arlington. Many of us think that perhaps outside influences have been at work. Exclamation

mmmmethanol

According to Speedwayworld.tv the Ed saga is going to arbitration.
That makes Dugard's story about agreeing a fee & rider exchange with another club, shall we say, less than the truth.
Funny how Ed seems to be getting all the bad press.

ray

as posted , we would really appreciate knowing his side of matters . true bobby is prone to knee-jerk reactions , we have witnessed this sort of situation before . whatever the truth , whether we really are told what it is , and what lead up to it , we are eagles supporters . i have criticised BD at times , but then none of us are perfect and we respond to such matters in different ways . but we are eastbourne supporters and are provided with this aspect of our lives by the dugards . the whole issue seems to have escalated out of control , but as said already , this is not the first time .

MrB

Has Ed really ever wanted to ride for us? He admitted last year he only rode here because of his main sponsor! Thats why hes getting a 'bad press' . Bob is right on this, if he couldn't commit to us now would he ever? No point in having a rider who doesn't want to ride for you. I just think it's sad that a rider doesn't want to be at his local club who gave him his start and gave him so many oppertunities.

ray

very valid post and comments .these are a matter of fact from kennett . it's over , we have seven other riders to support , from new boys to golden oldies . if kennett has not got the decency and bottle to stand up and speak , then he is confirming the position .anyway we can do without kennett , but not the dugards . it is as simple as that . Cool

parker

ray

excellent post mate , what you say is true . yes eagles do have greater continuity , whenever possible , and most of them and us appreciate this .think many of us remember when martin , david and deano came back in 1993 . we kept the nucleus of that season for many more . the attendances showed how much the fans , this time ,appreciated that Very Happy

Kevin54

Quite honestly the sooner we get this situation out of the way the better.
It's getting very boring.
No one is looking good out of it.

Pratt's reduced his offer.
The mystery £25K plus rider is looking just that, a mystery.

emjay

So Pratt has reduced his offer. Seems about right now. After all no one is going to pay silly money for a rider in the present climate.

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