sussexbulldog
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Eagles v Witches Saturday 19/09/2009 - Last league meetingWell folks this is our last league meeting so if you can come along and support the Eagles.
As I understand it the Eagles team is
1. Davey Watt
2. Simon Gustaffson or rr
3. Lewis Bridger
4. Cameron Woodward
5. Lukas Dryml
6. Daniel Nermark [ or guest if not fit ]
7. Ricky Kling
Lineup for Witches
1 Miskowiak
2 R/R
3 Batchelor
4 Nicholls
5 King ©
6 Stachyra
7 Wilkinson or guest
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Aussie2
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I would hope that there will be a good crowd on Saturday, at what could be our LAST MEETING.  All I hope is that our riders watch out for Batchelor, he seems to like tangling with riders on the first or second bend. Unfortunately the other riders are getting friction burns. Crump is the second rider it has happened to, i.e. Floppy when Batchelor rode for Swindon and now Crump riding against Ipswich. I do hope he is not badly hurt, as the next GP is only 11 days away. I do hope Simon is fit, has their been any news about him. Also who will be riding if Nermark is not fit, I do hope it is a good reserve. We need to win this one to get our revenge. 
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zena
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We will bet here,hope it's a good night as it's my birthday !!
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sussexbulldog
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Happy birthday in advance Zena.
Lets hope we get some good news to make us all happy.
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ray
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it's our 45th anniversary , fantastic . see you saturday to collect the dvds david . in the pits early, then near the bar in the grandstand
where we don't have to pay the extra . hope all our 7 are fit and riding coz we really do not know if as vera lynn sings " we'll meet again "
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sussexbulldog
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| ray wrote: | it's our 45th anniversary , fantastic . see you saturday to collect the dvds david . in the pits early, then near the bar in the grandstand
where we don't have to pay the extra . hope all our 7 are fit and riding coz we really do not know if as vera lynn sings " we'll meet again " |
Probably won't be early as my last appointment ends 6.00 pm but I will stick DVDs in my bag ready.
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ray
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thank you david . look forward to seeing you again , after that !!!!
this could to be the worst close season we can remember . certainly the most anxious .
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sussexbulldog
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Revised Teams :
Eagles : 1. Davey Watt, 2. Simon Gustafsson, 3. Lewis Bridger, 4. Cameron Woodward, 5. Lukas Dryml, 6. Ricky Kling. 7. Ty Proctor (Guest for Daniel Nermark)
Witches : 1. Robert Miskowiak, 2. Rider Replacement for Tobias Kroner, 3. Troy Batchelor, 4. Scott Nicholls, 5. Danny King, 6. Dawid Stachyra, 7. Carl Wilkinson.
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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I'm bringing along a friend on Saturday who has been once before, to our recent defeat against Wolves.
He loved the atmosphere, the noise , the smell, the buzz. even the burger from Shelleys!!!.... but he wasn't impressed by the performance of The Eagles.
Hopefully we'll do better this time, cos if we survive he could become a regular in 2010.
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sussexbulldog
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Yes I hope that we can end with a win in front of a big crowd.
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parker
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| ComeOnYouSpurs wrote: | I'm bringing along a friend on Saturday who has been once before, to our recent defeat against Wolves.
He loved the atmosphere, the noise , the smell, the buzz. even the burger from Shelleys!!!.... but he wasn't impressed by the performance of The Eagles.
Hopefully we'll do better this time, cos if we survive he could become a regular in 2010. |
Nothing to lose have we. Lets hope , that should it be our last elite meeting we do it in style. Tough bunch up your way Kevin if they can stomach Shelleys burgers. 
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nug
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Last league meeting and could be the last meeting for me and my family cos if Watt ever pulls on an eagles shirt again then we wont be there
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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First the good bit... Ricky Kling... what a transformation!! A while ago I was really laying into him as he went about a dozen rides without scoring a point... but now... whatever he's been having for breakfast over the last couple of weeks, I want some!!
Now the not so good... is anybody else as fed up as I am with hearing the constant namby pamby excuses from Davey Watt...
First he had a sore back...
Then his nasty mechanic ran away and left him all on his own...
And now the poor thing is an ickle bit too tired...
In the meantime of course his average has been falling like a stone, doing no harm at all to his chances of being offered a team place for the 2010 season.
Like nug... I feel that he should never be allowed to wear an Eagles race suit again. He's been a disgrace over the last few meetings.
What a great example for our captain and no.1 to be setting for the younger members of the team.
Even Kevin Coombes sounded like he's had just about enough of him!
I wait with baited breath for someone to attempt to put forward a case for the defence!!
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parker
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As one of those mamby pamby that although accepting that Davey Watts actions were totally unprofessional declined to accept that he was deliberately reducing his average to ensure a favourable spot in a team next season.In the past he has been a good servant to this club,but I would have to agree with the last 2 posts I dont think even if he was available he should wear the Eagles colours again. but if the present management team remain in place I could see him riding again. I cannot understand why the management continued to let it go on, other than the possible financial implications but more so keeping him as team captain. To be honest last nights meeting reflected our season in so much as on very few occassions did the whole team step up to the mark.I went to the last away meeting with Lakeside Ricky performance was abysmal and I jeered him since that meeting hes been an absolute revalation to the extent that along with Simon he was our best rider last night, Cameron and to some extent Ales Dryml could escape criticism for losing a meeting we should have won. I thought our 3 heat leaders failed miserably. Finally seems from what BD said on the centre green that there is some reason for optimism in regards next season.
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ray
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my thoughts exactly parker . never mind about "lady in red , what about "rider in red " , 15 heats -- 1 win . must be a new and most unwelcome record . davey , you all have said it all , he and his bike were both unfit for the meeting , arrived late so just for once perhaps the management cannot be blamed for being unable to manage . but surely they should sure he has a mechanic , even if they have to take that expense from his winnings , as without one he will not have any winnings . neither side seem to have the common sense to realise that , belle vue were able to get davey a mechanic , but our lot cannot ?!   as for other two heatleaders , lewis's machinery was again uncompetative-- and that with a whole team there with him . lukas was riding with injury from poland and his bike was slower than ales' to begin with . but his last two heats were magnificent [ yes our riders can gate sometimes but not often enough ] and he won wearing a blue helmet , " riders in blue " won 6 heats , another record ?
how many times have we had a reasonable lead only to throw it away this season , so many times , we get to dread heats after the interval .mind you heat13 was totally amazing , on paper and on the night it had to be a 5-1 against us --- our pair gated and rode the race of their lives . fantastic stuff . heat 14 , again ricky terrific even as nichols attempted to force him into the fence , to our yells of anger , so our out-of-form reserve was beating a GP rider , we loved it , unfortunately nichols got by on the last lap . but the original start of heat 14 , both our riders left at the gate , and again in heat 15 . lewis could only manage to take simon , the ippo pair were far too good for him .
but as already posted there were some special riders and events , simon lifted us as usual and ricky was brilliant , oh yes , and his machinery was up for it too . apparently he has been unwell with a virus and had only told simon , what was the point of telling the team manager anyway , doubt he even noticed . well he had to put ricky into heat 13 , no prizes for that . ales , amazing , shame about his fall in 12 , as otherwise we would still won the match , but willnot blame him . he has never ridden arlington like that before . well done family dryml .lukas really wants to be back next season ---- well who knows what if anything will be happening then . a saddening thought , but it simply couldnot carry on as it was regardless . think we all realise that .the unprofessionalism , disorganisation and lack of any real leader on or off the track has seen 7 home defeats , another unwelcome record it would appear .
i know at least 3 friends/fans who have lost their jobs and simply cannot afford to attend regularly anymore , they are the ones that have have my sympathy and understanding .so there are several reasons attendances have declined mentioned already .finally ippo deserved to finish above us in the league , 3 wins and a draw out of 4 . 'nuff said .well the experts were wrong , we didn't finish bottom , and poole were below us . have to try and be positive sometimes . 
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MD
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| parker wrote: | | Finally seems from what BD said on the centre green that there is some reason for optimism in regards next season. |
So what was said then Parker?
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parker
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| MD wrote: | | parker wrote: | | Finally seems from what BD said on the centre green that there is some reason for optimism in regards next season. |
So what was said then Parker? |
Cookie not coming.. unfortunately as it was the last time under his management we made a profit. There appears some interest or tho nothing concrete but if the Elite League is restructure there is the possibility that this interest could come to fruition.
Were you not there then MD ?
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MD
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| parker wrote: | | MD wrote: | | parker wrote: | | Finally seems from what BD said on the centre green that there is some reason for optimism in regards next season. |
So what was said then Parker? |
Cookie not coming.. unfortunately as it was the last time under his management we made a profit. There appears some interest or tho nothing concrete but if the Elite League is restructure there is the possibility that this interest could come to fruition.
Were you not there then MD ? |
No I didnt go, I had an operation 5 weeks ago and I was told 8 weeks before I can do much. I did go up to Arena for the Lakeside Eagles meeting and was told that it put me back by about a week  so I will be at Arlington on the 10th, I take it they used the fan replacemnt facility for me last night (F/R) ....
As regards next year, I dont think anybody is too sure of what may happen with a lot of teams in the Elite or what structure we may have in place but as I have always said, I think we should see a side at Arlington in 2010...
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ray
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in the grandstand we couldn't hear what BD was saying , but seemed nothing in the offing , and he is suprised , but would support any new promotion . what support he would offer was not clear .think he said trevor was willing to stay on . we have posted enough on that particular subject but nobody seemed to cheer or show enthusiasm .
have to wait and see what the bspa have to say about next year , but sky deal is covering elite league , though premier were also shown .think sky will state want they want and bspa will have to listen and co=operate . 
wish you a full and rapid return to full health mark . we will not be going on 10th , that seemed an awfully long drive home last night , be a while before we would repeat that .  only half a team produced the goods again ,so we are not exactly up for anymore of that . has to be more for the time trouble and expense involved for two .support has to be a two-way deal , from us and for us .
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parker
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| ray wrote: | in the grandstand we couldn't hear what BD was saying , but seemed nothing in the offing , and he is suprised , but would support any new promotion . what support he would offer was not clear .think he said trevor was willing to stay on . we have posted enough on that particular subject but nobody seemed to cheer or show enthusiasm .
have to wait and see what the bspa have to say about next year , but sky deal is covering elite league , though premier were also shown .think sky will state want they want and bspa will have to listen and co=operate .
wish you a full and rapid return to full health mark . we will not be going on 10th , that seemed an awfully long drive home last night , be a while before we would repeat that . only half a team produced the goods again ,so we are not exactly up for anymore of that . has to be more for the time trouble and expense involved for two .support has to be a two-way deal , from us and for us . |
Well on behalf of the club Ray may I thank you for the support you have given us over the years and wish you well in the future in whatever interest you take up to replace your fix of speedway.
Sorry to hear about your op MD hope all is going well and yes we did use F/R for you.. we got one from the several Ipswich fans that turned up .....wasnt up to much.
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nug
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Davey Watt was so tired last night that he managed to fly to poland today and score 8 plus 1. That takes the piss if you ask me. Watt in an eastbourne shirt=4 less paying fans through eastbournes turnstiles. Anyone disagree with my thoughts?
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ray
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thanks paul , much appreciated . it all depends on what happens during the close season . same again , might visit occasionaly , --- one of my biggest fixes is seeing and chatting to you in the car park have to wait and see , as posted , much could depend on Sky . financially could the elite survive without them ?
premier don't want anymore teams , elite too many matches , being the only elite saturday team , and with overseas competitions of various kinds we are too often deprived of our riders , and also fans will make financial saving by not attending all matches when visitors are lined up too many times in all sorts of competitions .agree with BD [ do you believe me paul ] , one league visit per team is enough .
also the riders constantly switching clubs , martin , david , deano , ando , danno --- they were OUR team , and we supported them each year . annual mercenries , then off again , it simply isn't what
we want or will pay for . fine new blood has to be brought in for various reasons , just look at lukas , we love him and he loves us , and a young star in the making , loyal and true , simon . bet some of you thought i was going to say some other rising youngster -- no thanks , i'll take simon .so that leaves national league or closure [ for at least a year ] . financially i'd take the former . follow and support " our boys" as we had during the early nineties --- magic .watch them grow in stature , a real team , we loved it and attended in droves . 
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MD
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| nug wrote: | | Davey Watt was so tired last night that he managed to fly to poland today and score 8 plus 1. That takes the piss if you ask me. Watt in an eastbourne shirt=4 less paying fans through eastbournes turnstiles. Anyone disagree with my thoughts? |
Well he is your facebook friend, why dont you ask him yourself, im sure he would value your imput on this subject.
I really don’t know the answer to Dave Watt’s lack of form and im sure he has no idea either. I don’t think anybody can offer excuses for a rider of his undoubted quality to score so badly for any team in any league. A lot of riders run on confidence and Dave is one of them, when its going well, they fly, when not, well they take the piss as you put it and are on a downward spiral.
Saying that, although I didn’t go, he was poor and let people down but he has won more points for Eastbourne than he has lost.
You pay your money you take your choice, The Eastbourne Eagles are bigger than any rider so I guess its up to you not to go to the last meeting this year…
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nug
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MD your correct when you say im facebook friends with him and believe me when he is online at the same time as me i will ask him what he ment by saying he was tired. Do you really believe that by him saying that he was withdrawing from the meeting due to being tired is really fair on us paying fans. If you do think its fair then could you please pay me to paint your windows or anything that you may need painting only for me to go home halfway through the job. If you believe that to be true then pm me and i shall come to yours and do a half a job for you.
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MD
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| nug wrote: | | MD your correct when you say im facebook friends with him and believe me when he is online at the same time as me i will ask him what he ment by saying he was tired. Do you really believe that by him saying that he was withdrawing from the meeting due to being tired is really fair on us paying fans. If you do think its fair then could you please pay me to paint your windows or anything that you may need painting only for me to go home halfway through the job. If you believe that to be true then pm me and i shall come to yours and do a half a job for you. |
Fair play Nug and of course, no offence to your goodself, you make a valid point.
As I said though, Dave is not the sort of person, like yourself with my windows, who would want to just do half a job. I dont think he has that in him, infact I know so.
Saying that, he let himself down last night and that will hurt him.
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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Most of you will know my opinion on Davey Watt's recent performances from my previous postings....
Nug.... I don't know about him pulling out half way through last night... we'd have been better off if he hadn't bothered turning up at all. And I agree with you how strange it seems that a long arduous journey to Poland seemed to revitalise him from the tiredness that he was suffering from on Saturday night!
MD... Davey has been pretty dismal over the last few meetings, coming out with one excuse after the other, so if it hurts him so much I'd have thought he'd have done something about it by now.... And isn't it strange that his lack of confidence doesn't seem to effect him in Sweden or Poland.
I know he has been terrific for us in the past but that doesn't give him the right to "take the piss" now.
I agree with nug that Saturday was the last straw and he should never wear an Eagles race suit again.... although I don't think I'd go as far as to say that I'd never go again.
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speedy dan boy
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I see Davey represents Eastbourne in the Elite riders championship at coventry with Lukas at reserve.I would love to have seen Lewis in there as in general he has done really well this year,is an eagles asset and you would know he would give it 100% and more!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOPS EDIT Just seen lewis and simon are in the U21 final the next day!!!
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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Agree with you speedy dan....
Following his recent displays I wouldn't let Davey represent us in the local egg and spoon race!!
Fingers crossed he might be "too tired" to compete at Coventry and Lewis could take his place.
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parker
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| ComeOnYouSpurs wrote: | Agree with you speedy dan....
Following his recent displays I wouldn't let Davey represent us in the local egg and spoon race!!
Fingers crossed he might be "too tired" to compete at Coventry and Lewis could take his place. |
I would agree with this post I dont think that his performances this season merit his inclusion in the line up. Personally on current form you'd have to give Simon and Ricky serious thought.
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ray
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hence the expression , " watt's wrong with davey" ? seriously , know the guy has to make a living , but to travel to and race in poland the following day shows his priorities .most polish teams/ sponsors supply mechanics .at first i did not agree with the criticisms , now ------
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