speedy dan boy
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4th july v panthersJust seen Davey watt,the Dryml brothers and ken bjerre are in the GP qualifyers this SATURDAY!! What with two qualifyers taking place on the same day guests are in short supply,hope trevors been on the blower to get riders in as this meeting could become a sham if norris isnt fit as well  
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ray
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well call it off . i hear floppy will probably not riding anymore this season. who wants to see us with 3 riders out , who will attend ?
but those idiots at the bspa , no common sense , --- nothing in common with fans , and hardly riders,and certainly no sense of what is right and what is wrong .
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Kevin54
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| ray wrote: | well call it off . i hear floppy will probably not riding anymore this season. who wants to see us with 3 riders out , who will attend ?
but those idiots at the bspa , no common sense , --- nothing in common with fans , and hardly riders,and certainly no sense of what is right and what is wrong . |
Quite agree with you and 'SpeedyyoungDaniel'. but I bet the Muppetts in charge at the loonybin, sorry BSPA, will probably insist it goes ahead.
It won't matter that the public will be shortchanged by an under strength team; it won't matter that the attendance may be affected; the fact we might have to re-schedule a meeting could affect the end of season play-off schedule, and that might affect the rulers of British Speedway..............................,Sky!!! 
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sussexbulldog
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Well that would be another nail in the coffin 
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ray
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lemmings , well i am not going over the cliff with them , like to be watching them go though 
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parker
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Re: 4th july v panthers-is this meeting being run? | speedy dan boy wrote: | | Just seen Davey watt,lukas drynl and ken bjerre are in the GP qualifyers this SATURDAY!! What with two qualifyers taking place on the same day guests are in short supply,hope trevors been on the blower to get riders in as this meeting could become a sham if norris isnt fit as well |
I dont see Davey Watt as a loss on his present form. Travis Macgowan would do me at least he appears to give his all.
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Sophies Mate
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4th july v panthers-is this meeting being run?Have to agree with Parker if we can get Travis in as a guest that would be great, however will we operate R/R for Floppy and Lukas? Would like to think that they will try and get another guest but expect they will probably go for R/R to save money. As Floppy is retiring for sure this time will they replace him? Lets hope the chase for the elusive Russian won't start up again.
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ray
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can only operate r/r for one rider . floppy out for season it appears . we cannot afford to do what coventry , poole and swindon have done , get a replacement with an average of over seven points . see aces are talking to troy bachelor. so two guests at least . our opponents can have a top heatleader guesting for bjerre . with last night's result and three eagles short how many will give this so called meeting a miss . will be amazed if bspa do the right thing for once and re-stage it . the attendance will be the worst of the season , infact for many seasons . feel sorry for BD if it has to take place . all the more reason to get out of the so-called elite if we get another chance next season . at least none of our riders will have overseas events taking precedence on saturdays , being a saturday team , it affects us regularly.
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Aussie2
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Unfortunately Travis McGown will not be able to ride on Saturday, under the EIGHT DAY RULE. So I hope thair ears burning trying to get replacements. Lewis will be our new number one, so whoever comes in for Watt and Dryml will be on their new averages. Hopefully they cannot be as bad as some were last night. 
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speedy dan boy
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just edited my original post that Ales Dryml is away as well riding in one of the semi finals!!!!! Also the news doesnt get any better as i think the new averages come out before our home match ,so Davey Watt wouldnt be number 1 in the averages!! Also we meet the panthers away on Thursday so riders will not be advailable for that match as they are required for friday practice!!YOU JUST COULDNT MAKE THIS UP IF YOU TRIED!!!
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ray
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hence the idea that if we survive it will have to be premier league , this kinda farce cannot happen then
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emjay
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Well, I wasted my money on Monday night. Certainly not going to waste it this Saturday.
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parker
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| ray wrote: | | hence the idea that if we survive it will have to be premier league , this kinda farce cannot happen then |
The impression I got was that theres no guarantee we would get straight in the PL. Matt Ford in the Poole article in last weeks Star indicated they might consider a drop to the PL but "might" have to wait a couple of seasons for a place to become available. If there was a place and we wanted to drop you can bet your last pound we'd be the last to react 
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ray
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no guarantee we will still be runnung either , paul .trying to be optimistic ,but we can learn nothing from our website --- like what the team is likely to be , or even whether the bspa will insist it goes ahead .we're being treated like mushrooms again !
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sussexbulldog
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See the story on our front page.
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ray
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so did bspa [ Bloody Stupid Pratts Altogether ] rule this ? surely BD would have sought to re-arrange coz the attendance under these circumstances and still looking for guests will likely be an all time low , and lose BD further income .
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Sophies Mate
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4th july v panthersThink we should all do a rain dance for Saturday and get the meeting rained off!!!!!!!!!
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MD
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Eagles
1. Lewis Bridger
2. Rider Replacement for David Norris
3. Adam Skornicki (Guest for Davey Watt)
4. Cameron Woodward
5. Nicolai Klindt (Guest for Lukas Dryml)
6. Simon Gustafsson
7. Ricky Kling
Panthers
1. Niels K. Iversen
2. Ulrich Ostergaard (Guest for Ales Dryml)
3. Mads Korneliussen
4. Kenneth Hansen
5. Rider Replacement for Kenneth Bjerre
6. Henning Bager
7. Claus Vissing
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Sophies Mate
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4th july v panthersNot a bad team after all - especially Adam he always seems to ride well round Arlington. Maybe should call the rain dance off now.
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speedy dan boy
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lewis is guesting for coventry on friday night so hope he comes out of that meeting safe and sound!
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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If we're to have any chance of this late push for the play-offs that Bob and Trevor keep talking about then 3 points from this one is a must.
Looking at the line ups.... and providing our "top" reserve pairing get their fingers out... that shouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility.
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parker
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| ComeOnYouSpurs wrote: | If we're to have any chance of this late push for the play-offs that Bob and Trevor keep talking about then 3 points from this one is a must.
Looking at the line ups.... and providing our "top" reserve pairing get their fingers out... that shouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility. |
True if we take the positives out of last nights performance and really give it a go, dont rely solely on the guests then we have a good chance. Need the crowd to create that partisan spirit Coventrys Trump spoke about when we hammered them 
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Tweagle
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Guests - Mostly Disasterous !Frankly I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth, with having to watch underperforming riders going through the motions when guesting for our Heat Leaders.
Scornicki was a absolute disgrace tonight,Klindt was poor, Hansen was a joke last time. Only McGowan has been anything like an adequate replacement for our guys.
I cannot understand why we insist on running meetings when our best guys aren't available. How can it make sense to keep running meetings on Saturdays, when we are going to lose because we can't field our best team. Can someone explain why we can't move some meetings to other nights as necessary to avoid this farce ?.
I cannot believe it's financially a problem, as when we have top riders missing the crowds are low, we lose the meeting, and as a result lose further support as we slip down the league.
Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out before the season starts when we are likely have riders away from the ludicrously extensive GP qualifiers and Under 21 qualifiers. Not to mention such utter nonsense meetings as the Under 21 World Cup.
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parker
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Re: Guests - Mostly Disasterous ! | Tweagle wrote: | Frankly I am absolutely fed up to the back teeth, with having to watch underperforming riders going through the motions when guesting for our Heat Leaders.
Scornicki was a absolute disgrace tonight,Klindt was poor, Hansen was a joke last time. Only McGowan has been anything like an adequate replacement for our guys.
I cannot understand why we insist on running meetings when our best guys aren't available. How can it make sense to keep running meetings on Saturdays, when we are going to lose because we can't field our best team. Can someone explain why we can't move some meetings to other nights as necessary to avoid this farce ?.
I cannot believe it's financially a problem, as when we have top riders missing the crowds are low, we lose the meeting, and as a result lose further support as we slip down the league.
Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out before the season starts when we are likely have riders away from the ludicrously extensive GP qualifiers and Under 21 qualifiers. Not to mention such utter nonsense meetings as the Under 21 World Cup. |
If they had moved it to Monday the crowd would probably been as big as last nights if not bigger with a full team. Before the meeting, although not my choice as guests I thought they were both capable of picking up a dozen points between them but as Tweagle posts Skornicki looked like he never been on a bike before. Last night was another meeting thrown away, how many more will the dwiddling fans have to endure before the season ends. Trevor, who I believe was a poor choice of Manager in the first place said he'd been on the phone constantly from Monday to Wednesday trying to get guests. Why leave it until monday we knew a few weeks ago this scenario would occur. We still havent got a replacement for Floppy, Walasek will lets us know in the next 3 weeks whether he will commit to us . What if at the end the three weeks he says no.. have we an alterative lined up?. I doubt it, we always seem to put all our eggs in one basket.
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Kopster
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Again wasn't the best crowd there again last night. The team need support from us in this bad patch. If we don't support the team we will close next year. We missed Lukas Dryml last night and Davey. Don't know what up with simon at the min he seem to be going down hill. Let hope the new signing comes quick coz we need a fresh face in the team.
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ray
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teams with hopelessly inadequate team managers , at any sport , inevitably go downhill , and attendances diminish .that's why the are replaced . as for his predictions , rather like alistair darling's .
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MrB
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Re: Guests - Mostly Disasterous ! | parker wrote: | | We still havent got a replacement for Floppy, Walasek will lets us know in the next 3 weeks whether he will commit to us . What if at the end the three weeks he says no.. have we an alterative lined up?. I doubt it, we always seem to put all our eggs in one basket. |
You honestly think Walasek is the answer to Eastbourne's problems, no.... he's the cheapest last option available who can fulfill the dates, we should of acted weeks ago when we had more points to play with but as we've seen and as Bob admitted it's sad to see what's happening to our club at the moment with the obvious lack of financial backing!
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parker
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Re: Guests - Mostly Disasterous ! | MrB wrote: | | parker wrote: | | We still havent got a replacement for Floppy, Walasek will lets us know in the next 3 weeks whether he will commit to us . What if at the end the three weeks he says no.. have we an alterative lined up?. I doubt it, we always seem to put all our eggs in one basket. |
You honestly think Walasek is the answer to Eastbourne's problems, no.... he's the cheapest last option available who can fulfill the dates, we should of acted weeks ago when we had more points to play with but as we've seen and as Bob admitted it's sad to see what's happening to our club at the moment with the obvious lack of financial backing! |
I dont know whether Walasek is the answer,The question I was asking was is there a "planB" MrB
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ray
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not suprisingly they missed out on bachelor . he was already in uk , so no costly overheads and expenditure . without a manager how do we manage ! mind you trevor is only a ray's friend --- hope it doesn't make his eyes water , on second thoughts -- why not  but as posted who would even consider repeating the last three seasons , the promotions never made it to a second year , as this one is not going to--- and that has been announced officially . BD has already mentioned eagles may well " take a year out " next season . all three promotions made heavy losses . think a prospective promoter would notice that .
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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Why have we lost 2 home meetings mainly due to having to rely on inadequate guests?
Because the club have once again allowed the R/R situation to drag on... and on... and on... and on.
Let's not forget that with the new 42 point limit we've had close to 8 points available to bring in a replacement.
You'd have thought they'd have learnt by now.
No ambition... no drive... no foresight... no common sense... and sadly possibly no future.
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ray
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and one time fans make alternative choices , hardly suprising with a third season in a row being so disappointing mainly through the lack of management and promotional skills and even knowing what is required . 
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citrus
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has ray ever written something positive about the eagles or does he even like them or is he a closet hammers fan may be he should take up knitting to fill his day
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ComeOnYouSpurs
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Im sure ray is perfectly capable of defending himself citrus.....
But I'd be interested to hear how you could put a positive slant on what has been going on over the last month or so.
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ray
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thought citrus was a sour or acidic taste , what made you chose it ? that should say a lot about you . most of my criticism is constructive , and if i , and so many other posters didn't care , we would not be so disappointed and express our feelings . as for hammers , well wish we had cook back , we just havenot replaced him . we didn't always appreciate him or realise what we had lost , but these three seasons have made most of us realise . adam will always be a favourite , joonas too .but then that is speedway unfortunately .with the rules , regulations , and changes , outsiders must find it difficult to comprehend . one of my themes is how any new promoter would decide to continue in the elite when they see what it has cost the last three who took this on . do you not see this ? have you anything positive to post about this or other matters ? will be most intrested to see your answer to COUS' question .hope you don't drop too many stitches .
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citrus
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will there even be a 2010 elite league as i hear their has to be 9 with some wishing to drop down a league and us who knows? just think we should do what we can as this might be the last season for the eagles as we know them sky seem to control everything these days and niot much hope left for speedway as now we might also have lost the pairs as well and its meant to be a celebration year oh well thats my moan bring back nikki p
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sussexbulldog
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The truth is that most fans feel upset and let down by the antics of Sky, the BSPA and to some extent the management.
However I do not think personal attacks on individuals are justified and hence my earlier comment. The man Ray hates so much ran speedway here for a time when nobody else wanted the job.
Bob Brimson came in and suffered terrible misfortunes which would have broken most people. Martin Hagon followed and the result caused a family row.
Who will pick up the poisoned chalice ?
My guess is nobody and this will be the last season at Arlington.
The only possibility that I see would be someone like TR.
It has to be a person with plenty of money to invest and/or lose.
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citrus
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good post sussex to which i agree but still hope someone can rescue the eagles damn sky and the bspa surely the sport should be run by independant body not people with vested interests in certain clubs and as for sky well words fail me
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parker
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Before we knock Sky to much BD on one of his trackside interviews when he told the faithful that he was standing down and looking for a new promoter he stated that the money now recieved from Sky was good. The club has lacked promotion for the last 3 seasons Brimson started full of good intent and after only a couple of days his Team Manager resigned and he took on Trevor Geer as Team Manager Hagon continued with Trevor and BD even made him co promoter.Trevor an honorable man liked by all but hardly likely to lead a side out of the trenches is not solely responsible but must take much of the criticism relating to Team matters and this continued use of R/R for 3 seasons now. Since Cook left promoting the club and finding a sponsor has to most been non existent and wasnt even great before Cook left. This has been airred time and again on here,and now we have the biggest recession of recent times Add to that the BSPA and we have a recipe for disaster. To be honest I dont think Terry Russell is really any more to blame than anyone else for the state we are in.
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ray
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true parker , i am told i should close this subject , i will try . it is the damage he and his selfish and thoughtless side-kicks have done to all speedway .agree with others , no more vested intrests and conflicts of such , but who are the people to rescue our sport ?
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parker
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| ray wrote: | | true parker , i am told i should close this subject , i will try . it is the damage he and his selfish and thoughtless side-kicks have done to all speedway .agree with others , no more vested intrests and conflicts of such , but who are the people to rescue our sport ? |
They mention in the Star that Tony Steele could become an Independant figure taking charge of Key decisions. I think speedway needs a full independent body running it, not just one man .Just think of the pressure Ford and Pratt could exert on Steele.
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ray
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but he is a special and respected man . true it would help if he were assisted by a couple the like of him . it would be an excellent start . think just about all of us agree about bspa being worse than useless , and sky being too big for their boots . problem is who would have the power to arrange this take-over . ?
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